I tried to put a poll with the choices of Pass, Double, 5S and Other, but somehow I failed!
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#1
Posted 2014-March-13, 08:45
I tried to put a poll with the choices of Pass, Double, 5S and Other, but somehow I failed!
#2
Posted 2014-March-13, 09:13
But if pass and double are possibilities, maybe I'm losing it.
#4
Posted 2014-March-13, 09:30
mich-b, on 2014-March-13, 09:14, said:
I have a feeling this is actually a ruling quesion ....
I am very suspicious too.
I am tempted to bid 6♠. If partner jumps to 4♠ all on his own, this might well make.
But I will bid 5♠. (But let's say that I am seriously considering 6♠. )
Rik
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#5
Posted 2014-March-13, 09:50
#6
Posted 2014-March-13, 10:02
mich-b, on 2014-March-13, 09:14, said:
-gwnn
#7
Posted 2014-March-13, 10:10
I'm envisaging points roughly evenly split between all four players, partner with at least AKJ6th of spades, probably two or three small diamonds. If he has more than one heart as well then 5S doesn't stand much of a chance - he'd bid the same with AKJxxxx Qxx xx x as AKJxxxx x xx Qxx, right?
I'll plump for 5S and be more hoping it makes, not that I've missed slam. If it doesn't make, it might well be cheap anyway. But certainly not pass, nor double.
ahydra
#8
Posted 2014-March-13, 12:02
billw55, on 2014-March-13, 10:02, said:
There are other possibilities. I am getting opinions without whatever irregularity there might have been.
#9
Posted 2014-March-13, 12:05
ahydra, on 2014-March-13, 10:10, said:
Indeed he would. And why do you think they are about to lead Ax or Kx of hearts on the first of these? Surely they will try to cash a top diamond. Anyway, thanks for your opinions, which accorded with mine. Two diamonds was a misbid, showing the majors, alerted and correctly explained as such. The player, who now had UI, doubled 5D, and I thought that 5S was the normal choice, with higher bids also possible on both this and the previous round. The TD is still to rule, as the league in question handles rulings by referral to an eminent panel, a sort of ruling and appeal all in one, which I think is quite a good system.
#10
Posted 2014-March-13, 14:20
Doubling 5♦ is not remotely acceptable, IMO. 5♥ as last train might make sense. 5♠ is the no-brainer. 6♣ is reasonable. 6♠ is plausible. Double is sick.
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#11
Posted 2014-March-13, 15:49
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#12
Posted 2014-March-13, 17:21
lamford, on 2014-March-13, 12:05, said:
It seems to me that 5♦ is a logical alternative on the previous round and that the UI demonstrably suggested passing 4♠ over bidding on. Let's hope that the eminent panel has not been reading too many of your arguments about logical alternatives having to be determined "using the methods of the partnership"!
#13
Posted 2014-March-13, 17:34
jallerton, on 2014-March-13, 17:21, said:
Agreed, there's no way I'd have passed 4♠ last time, at least 5♠ this time.
#14
Posted 2014-March-13, 18:30
jallerton, on 2014-March-13, 17:21, said:
At least I hope that they have also read my volte-face, on a thread on here, where I quoted Richard Hills who pointed out that Law 75 contradicts Law 16B, and there is also a WBFLC minute often mentioned, for example "Referring again to the principle that a specific law overrides a general law" in the Sao Paulo minutes. So, while 16B still wrongly states as you quote, and needs to be corrected, we apply the more specific Law 75 and decide LAs based on what the player believed were the methods of the partnership at the time, reinforced by Law 73C if necessary. The board was at my team-mates' table, and they were the non-offenders, and I think that 5♠x-4 is a probable outcome. Unless you think the hand opposite, which was ♠ xxxxx ♥ AQx ♦ xxx ♣ Qx, will bid more. Perhaps we should get some percentage of 6♠x-5.