[thomas c]

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im south and i did not finish this hand i was so disgusted.
bidding. west. north. east. south
1H. p. 1S. 2N (alerted as unusual 5c 5d
p. 3S (alerted as 16 pts, nothing else)
p. 4d. (now the alert says i have 25 pts) and the bot bids 4nt we wound up in 6 diamonds.

[virgosrock]

 thomas c, on 2018-July-13, 07:50, said:

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im south and i did not finish this hand i was so disgusted.
bidding. west. north. east. south
1H. p. 1S. 2N (alerted as unusual 5c 5d
p. 2S (alerted as 16 pts, nothing else)
p. 4d. (now the alert says i have 25 pts) and the bot bids 4nt we wound up in 6 diamonds.

how can 2S follow 2N ?

[smerriman]

He meant 3♠. This actually showed 16 or *less* total points, not exactly 16. But the entire response structure is messed up - every single possible response to 2NT makes no sense:

3♣ - 3+ ♣, 3- total points?!?
3♦ - 3+ ♦, 3+ HCP, 3- total points?!?
3♥ - 3+ ♦, 10-16 total points, forcing to 4♦
3♠ - 16- total points
3NT - 5- ♥, 5- ♠, 12+ HCP, 16- total points, likely stop in ♥ and ♠
4♣ - 5+ ♣, 16- total points
4♦ - 5+ ♦, 16- total points
4♥ - 3+ ♦, 14-16 total points, forcing to 5♦
4♠ - biddable ♠, 16- total points
4NT - quantitative invite to 6NT, 16+ HCP, 16- total points
5♣ - biddable ♣, 16- total points
5♦ - biddable ♦, 16- total points

And to add to the fun:

Pass - no suitable call, 16- total points, forcing

Oh dear oh dear.

[johnu]

I don't understand the bidding. Are you saying you/South bid an unusual NT showing the minor suits and North bid 2(3) spades with the hand you posted?

If so, this is pure Gibness, unfortunate, but not uncommon that GIB has gotten into some spaghetti code that should have been cleaned up years ago that makes no sense.

[thomas c]

 johnu, on 2018-July-13, 16:23, said:

I don't understand the bidding. Are you saying you/South bid an unusual NT showing the minor suits and North bid 2(3) spades with the hand you posted?

If so, this is pure Gibness, unfortunate, but not uncommon that GIB has gotten into some spaghetti code that should have been cleaned up years ago that makes no sense.

yes sorry about that. i meant 3s. and yes 2n was correctly alerted as minors. i hovered. over the 3s and as pointed out it just said 16 pts. and of course you are right. it is a glitch of some sort. pity things like this seem to show up right before the nabc. i really like the bot tournaments and challenges. i just wish we had a very simple (like larry cohen suggests) 2/1. i wish 3c over 2n was puppet like everyone plays. but ill keep playing i guess