BBO Discussion Forums: Improvement on 3rd+5th? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Improvement on 3rd+5th?

#1 User is offline   MickyB 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,290
  • Joined: 2004-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

Posted 2012-April-11, 06:14

Low from an odd number
3rd from an even number to an honour
Highest affordable from an even number of low cards

Don't remember coming across this before, feels like I should have. Good/bad/ugly?
0

#2 User is offline   ArtK78 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 7,786
  • Joined: 2004-September-05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Galloway NJ USA
  • Interests:Bridge, Poker, participatory and spectator sports.
    Occupation - Tax Attorney in Atlantic City, NJ.

Posted 2012-April-11, 08:20

It is not uncommon to play a high card from 3 or more low cards, regardless of the number.
0

#3 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2012-April-11, 08:29

These are like David Weiss' 'parity leads' except for distinguishing between holdings containing an honor. If you are looking for count early which takes priority in suit contracts, why would you do this?

I have limited experience with parity leads and they seem to work fine. I suppose the technical drawbacks are you can't always distinguish a 7 from holdings like Q7xx and QT7x. Also, you might not always be able to judge what considered a high spot you can afford.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#4 User is offline   akhare 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,261
  • Joined: 2005-September-04
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2012-April-11, 17:08

Weren't you playing mixed leads not too long ago :D?

What was your experience with them regarding improvement over 3/5th? Of course, those leads don't have that much of parity emphasis...
foobar on BBO
0

#5 User is offline   benlessard 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,465
  • Joined: 2006-January-07
  • Location:Montreal Canada
  • Interests:All games. i really mean all of them.

Posted 2012-April-11, 21:48

Leading from an empty suit isnt that frequent in my book. So I much prefer plain parity leads vs suits contract (low odds, highest you can afford even).
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
0

#6 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

  • Limit bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,482
  • Joined: 2004-November-02
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:England
  • Interests:Bridge, classical music, skiing... but I spend more time earning a living than doing any of those

Posted 2012-April-12, 13:01

We play this in partnership suits where we have raised, but I don't think that is really what you are after.
(Really we play attitude leads in partnership suits when the length is known, i.e. if we have already promised exactly 3 we also lead top of 3 low; if we have promised 3 or 4 we lead as you have described.)
0

#7 User is offline   awm 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,376
  • Joined: 2005-February-09
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Zurich, Switzerland

Posted 2012-April-12, 18:27

Seems good to me. Supposing you lead third and low normally, the question is just xxxx. Leading high gives pd the information that you have no honor as well as the count parity. The only issue is if he decides you lead from xx but his odds of distinguishing a two-card difference are usually good. Its different from leading high from three small (which would often be taken for xx).
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
0

#8 User is offline   MickyB 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,290
  • Joined: 2004-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

Posted 2012-April-13, 15:31

View Postawm, on 2012-April-12, 18:27, said:

Seems good to me. Supposing you lead third and low normally, the question is just xxxx. Leading high gives pd the information that you have no honor as well as the count parity. The only issue is if he decides you lead from xx but his odds of distinguishing a two-card difference are usually good. Its different from leading high from three small (which would often be taken for xx).


Cool, that was basically what I thought, thanks
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

2 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users