unfavorable 4S
#1
Posted 2008-February-12, 04:32
Ax
Qxxx
Axxxx
with a few spots here and there
1♥ by partner (<-dealer at favorable IMP), 4♠ by RHO, to you
George Carlin
#4
Posted 2008-February-12, 05:09
This is a takeout double, and I really hate doing this on a doubleton spade, but it is difficult to pass with all these Aces. Perhaps Pass would be better, though.
#5
Posted 2008-February-12, 07:03
#7
Posted 2008-February-12, 09:26
#8
Posted 2008-February-12, 10:37
- hrothgar
#10 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-February-12, 10:44
#11
Posted 2008-February-12, 10:52
Someone once said, "believe your red/white opps"
#13
Posted 2008-February-12, 14:41
oh no, they just made a NV 6NT=.
pd had
Qx
KT98x
xx
KQJx
George Carlin
#14
Posted 2008-February-12, 14:56
If double was takeout, partner has an easy 5♣.
#15 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-February-12, 15:25
pclayton, on Feb 12 2008, 11:52 AM, said:
Someone once said, "believe your red/white opps"
Believing them means they have 10 tricks for their red/white 4S bid? I guess we should always save when they bid 4S red/white. I guess X should never be passed and should just get taken out every time since RHO always has 10 tricks...
#16 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-February-12, 15:27
655321, on Feb 12 2008, 03:56 PM, said:
If double was takeout, partner has an easy 5♣.
Really don't agree. Just because a double does not show a trump stack does not mean partner should randomly pull to the 5 level. He must act on the assumption you can beat them and his pulling must be with the expectation to pass. You would X on Kxx Axx KQx xxxx as well. Passing with partners hand is normal.
#17
Posted 2008-February-12, 15:35
Jlall, on Feb 12 2008, 04:27 PM, said:
655321, on Feb 12 2008, 03:56 PM, said:
If double was takeout, partner has an easy 5♣.
Really don't agree. Just because a double does not show a trump stack does not mean partner should randomly pull to the 5 level. He must act on the assumption you can beat them and his pulling must be with the expectation to pass. You would X on Kxx Axx KQx xxxx as well. Passing with partners hand is normal.
I would pass with Kxx Axx KQx xxxx.
I play double of 4♠ as takeout, not cards. I dislike having as many as 2 spades for this double, I certainly won't have Kxx.
Agree that if double is just cards, and could include Kxx spade, that opener's pass is correct. Also, I would pass the double as opener (nowhere to go) with Qx KT98x xxx KQJ. But on the actual hand I believe bidding is correct opposite a takeout double.
#18 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-February-12, 16:15
#19
Posted 2008-February-12, 16:25
655321, on Feb 13 2008, 09:56 AM, said:
If double was takeout, partner has an easy 5♣.
Pass is clear over this double.
Double even if 'takeout' at this level does not show 4+=4+ in the minors. Therefore bidding with some minimum 5-4-2-2 hand is asking for disaster.
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#20
Posted 2008-February-12, 16:29

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