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Poll: Your plan over 1D? (47 member(s) have cast votes)

Your plan over 1D?

  1. 1S and 2S over 1N (8 votes [17.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.02%

  2. 1S and 3S over 1N (25 votes [53.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.19%

  3. 1S and 4S over 1N (8 votes [17.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.02%

  4. Direct 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Direct 3S (3 votes [6.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.38%

  6. Direct 4S (3 votes [6.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.38%

  7. Simians (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2008-February-11, 02:10

All white, IMPs.

♠AQ9xxxx ♥Axx ♦Tx ♣x

RHO deals and opens 1♦. If you overcall 1♠, you get the advance knowledge that pard will bid 1N.

What is your approach?
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Posted 2008-February-11, 02:24

1♠+4♠ or direct 4♠. I'd bid the first version most of the time.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 03:21

1♠ then 3♠; this is clear for me.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 04:15

1S followed by 3S for me as well.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 04:33

If we play weak jump overcalls, 1♠ followed by 2♠ already shows these HCPs (or a little more maybe). Now I have prime cards and an extra trump so 3♠.

The alternative is a direct 4♠. Or maybe 3N over 1N if I'm desperate.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 05:58

As usual, agree with hog and helene.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 09:31

Direct 4♠. I'm feeling CRAZY!!! But I don't think it's really that crazy.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:51

1♠ then 3♠. Not good enough for unilateral action, or delayed unilateral action. Let's invoke partner's judgement.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:00

1S and 4S for me.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 12:47

I bid 2♠ but we play this as intermediate. I consider I am maximum for 2♠ based on the seventh spade and aces etc so will accept any positive move from partner.

Otherwise 1♠ then 3♠ seems about right.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 12:47

Agree with the 1 then 3 crowd. Hard to see game being missed if partner can't raise that.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 14:27

I took the 1-3 route. Pard raised to 4 on Tx KJxxx K9xx Kx. LHO doubled on ♠KJx and out and I got out for -1 on less than perfect defense. The hands do not fit well, but game is still OK.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 15:19

pclayton, on Feb 11 2008, 12:27 PM, said:

I took the 1-3 route. Pard raised to 4 on Tx KJxxx K9xx Kx. LHO doubled on ♠KJx and out and I got out for -1 on less than perfect defense. The hands do not fit well, but game is still OK.

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Posted 2008-February-11, 15:30

1 then 3 as well, 1 then 4 is not partnership bridge. Do you really expect game to be good if partner passes 3?
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Posted 2008-February-12, 10:38

I'm definitely with the majority here; 1♠....3♠. After all, bridge is supposed to be a partnership game, so I prefer to involve partner when that seems like a good option.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 10:57

Also want to double check that a hand like:

♠AQJxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣xx

Overcalls 1♠, then cues 2♦ 1st over 1N.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 15:56

pclayton, on Feb 13 2008, 05:57 AM, said:

Also want to double check that a hand like:

♠AQJxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣xx

Overcalls 1♠, then cues 2♦ 1st over 1N.

To show what?

It is hard from a one hand example of a bid to determine what you are intending to show.

Does this show just the extra values?

Or does it show something in diamonds?

Or does it show the hand is more flexible?

Or maybe even some combination of these?
Wayne Burrows

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Posted 2008-February-12, 16:15

pclayton, on Feb 12 2008, 11:57 AM, said:

Also want to double check that a hand like:

♠AQJxxx ♥AJx ♦Kx ♣xx

Overcalls 1♠, then cues 2♦ 1st over 1N.

Yes I would cue and try to give pard a choice between 4S and 3N with this hand.
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