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RHO opens 1♠. What would you bid?
5-5 bad hand
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:28
RHO opens 1♠. What would you bid?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:33
2♠
Either weak or strong, preparing us for a save.
Either weak or strong, preparing us for a save.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:39
what ever shows this 2-suiter, most likely 2S.
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Marlowe
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:49
Bad 5-5s should generally be passed. But this ain't so bad and the colours suggest action. So I'd probably chance a 2-suiter overcall.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 10:59
Okay white vs red I will go with Michaels, but let me note that I would not bid it at any other colors. And I don't play it as "weak or strong".
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:08
Bad suits, bad hand, bad bid. At IMPs? You guys are animals!
I understand that 2♠ might work out, but it is more likely to cause a disaster IMHO.
I understand that 2♠ might work out, but it is more likely to cause a disaster IMHO.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:15
Gerben42, on Feb 11 2008, 11:33 AM, said:
2♠
Either weak or strong, preparing us for a save.
Either weak or strong, preparing us for a save.
I am with Gerben. Partner knows that I can have this (or less). The hand is actually quite good for the bid. It has offensive values and hardly anything on defense.
Rik
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:26
joining the "2♠, but only at these colors" bandwagon........
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:41
favorable definitely michaels, finding sacrifices is really important at favorable
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Posted 2008-February-11, 11:59
I also bid 2S but I don't understand the comments that this is a good hand for the bid, this hand has terrible suits and quite a bit of defense. Make ♦J a Q and I would pass.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 12:49
whereagles, on Feb 11 2008, 05:26 PM, said:
joining the "2♠, but only at these colors" bandwagon........
Totally agree.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 12:56
PASS!!! Give me some heart spots next time please. No matter how many hearts partner bids my prayer will be that we aren't doubled.
I would trade the ace of clubs for the Q if you would throw in the T9 of hearts with it.
I would trade the ace of clubs for the Q if you would throw in the T9 of hearts with it.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 13:09
Trinidad, on Feb 11 2008, 12:15 PM, said:
It has offensive values and hardly anything on defense.
Exactly the opposite, it has an ace, a king, stray jacks, and bad suits. Great defense and bad offense. Offensive values without defense would be more like x QJT9x xx KQT9x.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 13:26
At this vulnerability this is close to a minimum for our Michaels. I would do it with a bit less if my suits were better.
2♠ shows hearts and clubs for us.
2♠ shows hearts and clubs for us.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 15:31
Clear pass for me but I know I am much sounder than most people in this position. I cannot stomach forcing to the 3 level with suits this bad when it is just so easy for them to X us, and if they end up on play I have helped them a ton.
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Posted 2008-February-11, 15:33
Cheerful 2♠ for me.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 04:19
Jlall, on Feb 11 2008, 09:31 PM, said:
I cannot stomach forcing to the 3 level with suits this bad when it is just so easy for them to X us, and if they end up on play I have helped them a ton.
I must say last time I forced the 3 level on such raggy suits, pard went for -800.
The good thing was that teammate was in 3NT and played it brilliantly to win a "best declarer play" nomination. Too bad it only restricted our losses to -5 imps.. lol
Still, I think I was a bit unlucky.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 10:58
This looks like a very clearcut pass IMO.
Pretty little upside bidding here, and a big downside. I've got only defencive values. We can easily go for a number when opps don't even make game. Besides, we help opps a lot when it comes to declarer play.
Like Josh and Justin, I'd easily trade away one of my honours for some good fillers in my suits. Then we're talking.
Pretty little upside bidding here, and a big downside. I've got only defencive values. We can easily go for a number when opps don't even make game. Besides, we help opps a lot when it comes to declarer play.
Like Josh and Justin, I'd easily trade away one of my honours for some good fillers in my suits. Then we're talking.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 11:20
C'mon guys you have to pass with this.
You probably aren't getting to anything profitable at the 5 level, and you have decent defense against vulnerable opponents that are going to stretch to a game.
If you Michaels this, you might as well lay your cards on the table and let declarer play the hand that way.
You probably aren't getting to anything profitable at the 5 level, and you have decent defense against vulnerable opponents that are going to stretch to a game.
If you Michaels this, you might as well lay your cards on the table and let declarer play the hand that way.
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Posted 2008-February-12, 12:11
pclayton, on Feb 12 2008, 05:20 PM, said:
If you Michaels this, you might as well lay your cards on the table and let declarer play the hand that way.
I refuse to see things by this window only. There's a lot of good things that can happen and one can't just weight the bad ones. If you tell me "the minuses outweight the plusses" then I might accept the reasoning. But to point out the bad stuff only is biasing judgement.