The problem was posed at matchpoints. Hence my choice of a 2♠ call.
Also, I expect that a direct action by partner over 2♥ shows a sound hand. In my partnerships, we do not make borderline overcalls of preempts. So, I have to protect him. Balancing with a double on this shape makes no sense to me. My spades are good. Partner will not expect a better hand (he might expect a 5th spade, but he has seen 4 card balances before).
Pard will NOT raise on a balanced 8 or 9 count.
Balancing act? Look out for those 'gators!
#22
Posted 2007-October-26, 07:37
Sadly it was one of those hands and pard got excited so we got a nice -800 for our trouble. (3S would have been no bargain and 3D whb doubled but not 2S). The pointy suits were 5-5 in the doubler's hand. I think that 3D is plenty but once I chose to double....it was game over. Pass was the big winner.
The Grand Design, reflected in the face of Chaos...it's a fluke!
#23
Posted 2007-October-26, 07:46
I agree with jdonn's initial post, double only white vs white at MPs, and never 2S.
3D is definitely enough with partner's hand.
3D is definitely enough with partner's hand.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#24
Posted 2007-October-26, 08:15
Al_U_Card, on Oct 26 2007, 08:37 AM, said:
Scoring: MP
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p-4♦-DBL
Sadly it was one of those hands and pard got excited so we got a nice -800 for our trouble. (3S would have been no bargain and 3D whb doubled but not 2S). The pointy suits were 5-5 in the doubler's hand. I think that 3D is plenty but once I chose to double....it was game over. Pass was the big winner.
Another example of partner getting overly enthusiastic after partner balances.
Over double or 2♠, 3♦ is enough. And, if you play Lebensohl in this situation, over the double 3♦ shows values so it is certainly enough.
Yes, pass would have worked out on this hand. But I do not believe it is the winner in the long run. Once I balance, 3♦ is the best available spot.
By the way, while it would not affect my choice of action, it appears that my partner and I both hold the ♦J.
#25
Posted 2007-October-26, 09:42
Tks for the fix. I wasn't sure if emotion had got to me after the first board (being passed out after a J/S is kind of unsettling) but while pard cannot bid 3D red after 2H, he can subtract that famous "balancing king" which makes his hand very borderline for anything other than 3D. I did consider 2S but felt that with the right 13 pt hand that 3NT might play well. Now that is emotion.....
The Grand Design, reflected in the face of Chaos...it's a fluke!

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