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One simple question: 3♠ or 4♠?
3 or 4
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:06
One simple question: 3♠ or 4♠?
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:13
What about 3NT?
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:29
skaeran, on Oct 26 2007, 04:13 PM, said:
What about 3NT?
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:38
4 is a clear overbid. If you can make game partner will bid over 3.
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:49
Jlall, on Oct 26 2007, 04:38 PM, said:
4 is a clear overbid. If you can make game partner will bid over 3.
Not always. But 4 is still an overbid.
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Posted 2007-October-26, 15:59
Agree that 4S is a big overbid, but I find the 3NT suggestion very amusing.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-October-26, 19:39
skaeran, on Oct 27 2007, 04:13 AM, said:
What about 3NT?
Reminds me of a hand a few years ago in final of the Pennant comeptition.
AKQTxxx Kx Ax Ax
Bidding at our table:
1H (P) 3H (3NT)
Unfortunately this bid did not occur to uour teammate who bid 4S. The opps defended well to defeat this. with opener dropping K of C from Kx when the C Ace was played at trick 3 after the D K was led and a D continued.
Btw I like 3NT on this hand, but would probably bid 3S.
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Posted 2007-October-26, 21:49
This reminds me of a hand, as well.
2♠-P-P-2NT-
P-3♠-X-4♥-
all pass.
Advancer had a void in hearts and thought I was creative with my 2NT call. I was not. Hearts did not play well.
2♠-P-P-2NT-
P-3♠-X-4♥-
all pass.
Advancer had a void in hearts and thought I was creative with my 2NT call. I was not. Hearts did not play well.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 03:55
3♠ for me too. I see 7 tricks here, I suppose partner will raise with 3 tricks.
3NT is funny, but only if it works out. How do you estimate that? When I try these jokes usually the opposition has the last laugh.
3NT is funny, but only if it works out. How do you estimate that? When I try these jokes usually the opposition has the last laugh.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 10:28
I'm bidding 4. Not going to let pard guessing what to do when I can decide stuff myself.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 10:35
whereagles, on Oct 27 2007, 11:28 AM, said:
I'm bidding 4. Not going to let pard guessing what to do when I can decide stuff myself.
You mean Not going to let partner decide what to do when I can guess stuff myself
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Posted 2007-October-27, 11:28
The_Hog, on Oct 27 2007, 03:39 AM, said:
skaeran, on Oct 27 2007, 04:13 AM, said:
What about 3NT?
Reminds me of a hand a few years ago in final of the Pennant comeptition.
AKQTxxx Kx Ax Ax
Bidding at our table:
1H (P) 3H (3NT)
Unfortunately this bid did not occur to uour teammate who bid 4S. The opps defended well to defeat this. with opener dropping K of C from Kx when the C Ace was played at trick 3 after the D K was led and a D continued.
Btw I like 3NT on this hand, but would probably bid 3S.
Me too.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 12:09
3♠ is obvious. Some adventurous types might try 3N.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 14:28
Jlall, on Oct 26 2007, 09:38 PM, said:
4 is a clear overbid. If you can make game partner will bid over 3.
I guess you consider
xx
Axxx
Qxx
Axxx
a clear raise to 4, huh?
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Posted 2007-October-27, 14:32
Dono about Justin, but I would not consider passing with that hand.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 16:25
whereagles, on Oct 27 2007, 03:28 PM, said:
Jlall, on Oct 26 2007, 09:38 PM, said:
4 is a clear overbid. If you can make game partner will bid over 3.
I guess you consider
xx
Axxx
Qxx
Axxx
a clear raise to 4, huh?
this is a clear 3N bid, yes.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 18:06
Well..... I guess we have different standards then.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 18:06
whereagles, on Oct 28 2007, 03:28 AM, said:
Jlall, on Oct 26 2007, 09:38 PM, said:
4 is a clear overbid. If you can make game partner will bid over 3.
I guess you consider
xx
Axxx
Qxx
Axxx
a clear raise to 4, huh?
Bad example Nuno. I would bid 3NT with this.
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Posted 2007-October-27, 18:41
Well.. ok, change a club into a spade or something.
Still, I'm surprised you (and justin) bidding over a reopening 3♠. It's common practice to place pard with 7-8 points when bidding over a preempt, so, using the old 'move a queen' balancing rule, it seems normal to place pard with 9-10 points when BALANCING over a preempt.
The hand I gave has 10 hcp, so it's more or less what pard expects me to have if he balances. Thus, I wouldn't bid on. After all, next time he has, say,
KQxxxx
Kxx
xx
Kx
and even 3♠ is going to be a struggle...
Still, I'm surprised you (and justin) bidding over a reopening 3♠. It's common practice to place pard with 7-8 points when bidding over a preempt, so, using the old 'move a queen' balancing rule, it seems normal to place pard with 9-10 points when BALANCING over a preempt.
The hand I gave has 10 hcp, so it's more or less what pard expects me to have if he balances. Thus, I wouldn't bid on. After all, next time he has, say,
KQxxxx
Kxx
xx
Kx
and even 3♠ is going to be a struggle...
(3♦)-pass-(pass)-?