Aberlour10, on Nov 20 2007, 11:38 AM, said:
judy3, on Nov 20 2007, 11:06 AM, said:
Who but Americans would make such a poster? Can anyone see a group from anyother country making such a poster? Think about it. It is true that we have freedom of speech, but why would Americans act in such a manner? I would hope that regardless of political opinions, we would be Americans first. What has happened to patriotism, but more importantly, manners? How sad that these women would act in such a way. I compare them to the Dixie Chicks.
Maybe they should just leave the USA. 
I am sure that, Senator McCarthy's The House Un-American Activities Committee (if still exists) would have the same opinion.
Robert
Of course
Senator McCarthy had little to nothing to do with
The House Committee on Un-American Activities. Passing forward that sort of misinformation is prolly a better example of political propaganda (not to mention historical revisionism) than the USA1 gaffe, though both share a common agenda.
But your error-based point is that Judy3's opinion is somehow extreme and misguided and worthy of disparagement, likened to something widely discredited. The opposing opinion is that we need a nation filled with ill-mannered citizens who exercise poor judgment in the service of discharging their insanely unabiding hatred for GWB. The USA1 team did not display such passion, but it is obvious that some posters here do suffer from this obsession, which is shared with about one fifth of us. They characterize Republicans in this thread as greedy oil barons who want the poor to die. In other places they suggest Republicans want their children to breath noxious air and drink poisoned water. They want us all to drown in the rising seas some day in the ever-retreating future. 30 years ago they said it would happen in 20. Our Springs were to have been silenced 20 years ago. In this thread they minimize the folly of the USA1 team and condemn the body responsible for cleaning up the mess that team created, preferring to ignore it and "move on," presumably to the next opportunity to vent their hatred. That approach never seems to get old for them. And why should it? That end surely justifies any means. And name-calling, vilifying, finger-pointing while ignoring salient facts seem to work over and over again and gratifies that compulsive
need to bash Bush ll.
This bridge world microcosmic flap reflects the general malaise afflicting our country. It did not start with Bush, but one can hope it will end with him. Does Bush deserve bashing? Richly. Sadly, his bashers do so for almost all the wrong reasons, a characteristic of the emotionally disturbed neoliberals who are blinded by their passions and rendered irrational and reduced to rhetorical sound-good platitudes that have the sole purpose of stealthily imposing their brand of tyranny on the rest of us.
While it behooves the Left to open their left eyes to observe the fascist regime their leaders propose with the happy assistance of the mainstream media, it likewise behooves the Right to open their right eyes and note the hypocrisy and lost way their leaders are urging with the happy assistance of the new media. One poster here is fond of calling people wingnuts, ignoring, or perhaps blinded to the obvious fact that there are 2 brands of wingnuts, Right and Left. This is a sort of projection, of course. As often as not their accusations are in fact unconscious confessions of guilt. It might be prudent to consider the possibility that when both brands of wingnuts call each other contemptible, they might BOTH be right, but again, often for the wrong reasons. Delusions die hard.
It has been suggested the way out of our polarized state lies in the idea that Right and Left share common ground in their allegiance to the Constitution. But my question to such optimism is which Constitution? In his book
We the People, Vol 1, learned Yale Law School professor Bruce Ackerman argues convincingly that our nation has lived under 3 Constitutions, that we currently live in the Third Republic. The First was that of our Founders that envisions a federalism of explicitly limited powers conferred by the several states, ratified by them on that basis. The Second Republic was brought about by force of arms by the Lincoln Republicans. This Constitution reverses the roles envisioned by the Founders and creates a federal government that usurped power from the states (
i. e., the People) and grants itself unlimited power. It was the second major tyrant (Lincoln being the first) who wielded that power to create the Third Republic, FDR and his New Deal Democrats. The Demopublican tyranny has plagued us ever since. The neoliberals who coopted the Democratic Party starting in the early 1930's has had the singular intent to impose the American Socialist Party platform of 1934 on America (when that Party endorsed FDR and lost its membership en masse to the Democrats). Only one plank of that platform has NOT become American law: universal health care.
So will we succumb to the incrementalism that has marked the second half of our history, become the Socialist utopia that has never worked anywhere else, or awaken to the historical forces that are driving us irrevocably to utter enslavement, and resurrect those principles and blessings that our Founders wished to bestow upon us? Will we continue to focus our attention on the Left/Right polarity that exhausts us, depletes our energies in neurotic dysfunction, or reject both in the embrace of our long lost liberty?
How? It is prolly a good idea to restore the Bill of Rights -- every Amendment has suffered egregious erosion under the Demopublican menace. Adopting a foreign policy that the Founders endorsed is another step to our freedom. A significant advance in our restoration is righting the unconscionable abdication of the Congress' Constitutional duty to manage our money supply. Contrary to an earlier assertion in this thread, the Federal Reserve is a private corporation, NOT a government body of any sort. It is unique only to the extent that it is the only private corporation that is exempt from filing its accounting with the Infernal Revenue Service -- or any one else. It is completely unaccountable and rewards its Republicratic sponsors by underwriting their cause du jour (delivering the promises made to get themselves elected) by printing bogus paper that makes milk more expensive. The Cost of Living Index is not inflation (the term refers exclusively to the money supply controlled exclusively by the Federal Reserve Corporation), inflation is the hidden tax we pay for our wars, our free lunches, and a scale of unspeakable corruption only possible with the astronomical budgets both parties enlarge with impunity.
There are many steps required to undo the damage our nation has absorbed under the unprincipled tyrants who have governed us since Lincoln as the 2 parties have taken turns eroding their favorite freedoms. My pet peeve is the sham that passes itself as Trial by Jury, but that circumstance is too complex to bore my enduring reader any further with its explication.
To get a fresh view of what is required to bring our nation back to its founding principles in this time of divisive chaos, one might google the campaign of Dr. Ron Paul. He knows a lot about health care, opposes all war without disarming our common defense, would abolish the IRS (virtually every dime it collects goes directly to the Federal Reserve Corporation in service of our illegally created "national debt"), and a whole host of other positions that reflect and result from his (and the Founders') Grand Underlying Principle.
That guiding Principle regards a perception about morality. Now the Bozo is not insensitive to the squirming reaction neoliberals are prone to experience at the mere mention of the "M" word. But if it is of any consolation to those of you who have borne with me on this rant so far who may be feeling this dis-ease, remember that even religionists cannot agree on what is moral. If nothing else, the Bozo is an equal opportunity discomforter. Right or Left wingnut, even the radical center is not spared my challenge to find fault with this Principle without revealing precisely what brand of tyranny is preferred by the fault-finder. Further, this Bozo bus will not attempt to take you to an avenue that presumes to define what is moral, quite the opposite. This is the uniting foundational Principle that serves us all no matter which Constitution one chooses to defend or protect, that yields a complex political system with an entirely consistent view of freedom; it is absolute and simple:
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The initiation of force (or deceit) to achieve personal or political objectives is immoral*****
Trump that, if you can.
Before my body
I throw my warlike shield. Lay on, Macduff,
And damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!' --MacBeth
There is no Founding American tradition that compels us to respect the other guy's religion; Americans are compelled to respect only the creator-granted right to have it -- even if that religion is the equally unprovable belief that there is no creator. --Bozo bus
We are ALL bozos on this bus. --Firesign Theater
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