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It turns out I elected to call 1♠ (although I am now sure 2♠ is better, to which partner responded 1NT. What now? Well I couldn't think of anything better so I cracked out 6♦. What do you think?
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Posted 2005-August-23, 06:03
It turns out I elected to call 1♠ (although I am now sure 2♠ is better, to which partner responded 1NT. What now? Well I couldn't think of anything better so I cracked out 6♦. What do you think?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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Posted 2005-August-23, 06:25
Rebound, on Aug 23 2005, 08:03 AM, said:
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How do you respond to 1♦ from partner?
How do you respond to 1♦ from partner?
It turns out I elected to call 1♠ (although I am now sure 2♠ is better, to which partner responded 1NT. What now? Well I couldn't think of anything better so I cracked out 6♦. What do you think?
I think partner could hold a 14 hcp maximum like,
Kx
Jxxx
AJxx
KQx
and they take the first two tricks. Odds are, however, there might be a play for slam, In fact, if you play 16-18 1NT or 11-14 1NT partner might have Kx Axx Axxxx Axxx and grand slam is on.
But what is the rush? Do you play new minor forcing or xyz? IF so use that. Your method just has to include a way to force and show ♦ support. Figure out what it is, and go for it. If you have to invent a jumpshift it a three card suit (gulp), then do that and bid 3♥...
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Posted 2005-August-23, 06:29
I suggest that you bid 2♦, part of 2-way Check Back Stayman and game forcing, asking for more information. Then you can get opener's exact shape and set a trump suit later.
When we have the points and opps don't interfere, there is no need to guess. I don't recommend a strong jump shift, even if it is your agreement, on hands with no clear direction.
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When we have the points and opps don't interfere, there is no need to guess. I don't recommend a strong jump shift, even if it is your agreement, on hands with no clear direction.
Roland
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Posted 2005-August-23, 06:53
1♦ - 1♠
1NT - ...
is the correct and only start I can think off. Now, you need some artificial bid to ask more information. Many play new minor forcing, or some sort of checkback, or ...
I really don't see a problem if you have such bids available. Without such bids, you'll indeed be stuck to jumping to something you hope to make without overtricks.
1NT - ...
is the correct and only start I can think off. Now, you need some artificial bid to ask more information. Many play new minor forcing, or some sort of checkback, or ...
I really don't see a problem if you have such bids available. Without such bids, you'll indeed be stuck to jumping to something you hope to make without overtricks.
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Posted 2005-August-23, 07:49
This is why NMF (or 2 way as most people play now) is one of the cornerstones of constructive bidding. It's hard to bid without it on hands like this. If you can establish a low level game force and then get some info, it'd be much better.
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Posted 2005-August-23, 07:59
Hi,
absent any special aggreements, one easy way would
be to bid 4D, which surely is forcing, and sets diamonds
as trumps.
With kind regards
Marlowe
absent any special aggreements, one easy way would
be to bid 4D, which surely is forcing, and sets diamonds
as trumps.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2005-August-23, 08:23
If 2S is available as a SJS, I like that call a lot. Yet as so many have indicated, SJS aren't usually used in a modern 5 card majors system.
Playing XYZ, I would eschew the 5-3 spade fit and start with a direct 3D probe at IMPs. With your example hand, I will hear 3S. Kickback or minorwood will follow.
After all, don't you want to play 6D opposite KS, A?, A? + whatever other goodies pard has?
Playing XYZ, I would eschew the 5-3 spade fit and start with a direct 3D probe at IMPs. With your example hand, I will hear 3S. Kickback or minorwood will follow.
After all, don't you want to play 6D opposite KS, A?, A? + whatever other goodies pard has?
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Posted 2005-August-23, 11:12
A radical idea suggested in this book by Mike Lawrence (the uncontested auction)
suggests that a strong jump shift followed by any new suit, apart from openers shows a hand like this one. I.e. a strong suit, support for opener's suit and singleton in the new suit.
E.g.
1D 2S
2NT 3C
Now unless partner bids 3NT, suggesting wastage in clubs, you're off to the races.
suggests that a strong jump shift followed by any new suit, apart from openers shows a hand like this one. I.e. a strong suit, support for opener's suit and singleton in the new suit.
E.g.
1D 2S
2NT 3C
Now unless partner bids 3NT, suggesting wastage in clubs, you're off to the races.
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Posted 2005-August-23, 12:58
That idea is not radical 
It used to be known as a Soloway Jump Shift, either because Paul Soloway invented it (many years ago) or because he popularized it.
It used to be known as a Soloway Jump Shift, either because Paul Soloway invented it (many years ago) or because he popularized it.
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Posted 2005-August-23, 13:22
ooops, my mistake. Soloway JS, certainly use a new suit by responder as a cuebid in support of opener's suit (unless opener has shown a fit for the jumpshift) but not specifically a singleton. Sorry about that 
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Posted 2005-August-23, 15:00
Thank you as always for the helpful and lucid analysis. To be honest, I did have NMF available but I was truly pooped at the time and, in fact, didn't even think of it until I read your replies. Still, your answers are interesting in any event and I appreciate it.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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