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Posted 2026-May-16, 15:36

MP


X of Partner is takeout, otherwise undiscussed.
Your call?
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Posted 2026-May-16, 16:04

6C?

Your guess is as good as mine, maybe 6NT is better.
I give opener the Ace of spades, that rules out 7.

I dont think I will be able to tell p, what I have got,
so I bid, what I think will have chances to make.
I can start with 4S, ..., whatever.
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Posted 2026-May-16, 17:08

6C
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Posted 2026-May-16, 18:59

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Posted Yesterday, 06:32

I would have bid 6C.

4S looks likely to elict 5H telling us nothing we could not imagine and now 6C is ambiguous (at least to me): is it still just to play, or is it stronger than a direct 6C or is it some kind of grand slam try in hearts?

At the table an expert West bid 6NT which was a top; but I struggle to convince myself it was the right decision, hence the post. If BBO were to restore the trick taking calculation in Dealer such evaluation would be straightforward for the community here.

I was also curious if anyone would consider 5NT here: partner looks likely to have diamonds as well as hearts, although we probably want to declare with this hand.
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Posted Yesterday, 08:30

View Postpescetom, on 2026-May-17, 06:32, said:

4S looks likely to elict 5H telling us nothing we could not imagine and now 6C is ambiguous (at least to me): is it still just to play, or is it stronger than a direct 6C or is it some kind of grand slam try in hearts?
For me 4 shows both minors, I doubt partner is strong enough to bid hearts over that.
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Posted Yesterday, 10:38

View Postpescetom, on 2026-May-17, 06:32, said:


4S looks likely to elict 5H telling us nothing we could not imagine and now 6C is ambiguous (at least to me): is it still just to play, or is it stronger than a direct 6C or is it some kind of grand slam try in hearts?


We are looking for A or for partner to have a void and we won't find it by bidding 6.
4 5 6 (stronger than a direct 6)is clubs, we all know there is some wild distribution here.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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Posted Yesterday, 11:01

View Postpescetom, on 2026-May-17, 06:32, said:

I would have bid 6C.

4S looks likely to elict 5H telling us nothing we could not imagine and now 6C is ambiguous (at least to me): is it still just to play, or is it stronger than a direct 6C or is it some kind of grand slam try in hearts?

At the table an expert West bid 6NT which was a top; but I struggle to convince myself it was the right decision, hence the post. If BBO were to restore the trick taking calculation in Dealer such evaluation would be straightforward for the community here.

I was also curious if anyone would consider 5NT here: partner looks likely to have diamonds as well as hearts, although we probably want to declare with this hand.


The main problem with 6C is, you may run into a spade ruff, not sure avoiding the risk is worth losing
the option to use trumps to generate the 12th trick.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:59

 DavidKok, on 2026-May-17, 08:30, said:

For me 4 shows both minors, I doubt partner is strong enough to bid hearts over that.

And 4N?
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Posted Yesterday, 13:38

Also both minors but not forward-going.
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Posted Yesterday, 13:48

 DavidKok, on 2026-May-17, 13:38, said:

Also both minors but not forward-going.

Makes sense, thanks.
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