Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day
#121
Posted 2025-November-13, 17:34
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/3skhhax3
#122
Posted 2025-November-13, 18:07
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p8bntmc
#123
Posted 2025-November-14, 00:38
The top NS score was 100% at the one table where NS doubled EW in 4S and beat it 4 for +1100.
The most common NS score was 57.50%...at 16 tables...where NS also beat 4S four tricks, but did not double, and therefore "only" scored +400.
At two other tables, NS scored 12.50% for beating 4S "only" three tricks not doubled.
At another table, NS scored 5% for beating 4S only ONE trick not doubled.
Thus, EW reached 4S at 20 of the 21 tables.
At the 21st table, SOUTH...opened 2S and played it there, scoring zero percent, as he went down 2 for minus 100, the ONLY negative NS score out of the entire 21 times the board was played.
But the STORY is the EW auction at 21 of the 22 tables - the GIB robot auction with some questionable bids and bizarre GIB definitions:
West's 4C bid seems peculiar, but the definition is typically worthless: "5+ spades; 21- HCP; 16-22 total points". That's it, that's all! Totally useless!
Next, East bids 4H on his 642 tripleton! WHY, pray tell?
https://www.bridgeba...C2%7Cpc%7CD9%7C
#124
Posted 2025-November-14, 00:46
https://www.bridgeba...D6%7Cpc%7CSA%7C
#125
Posted 2025-November-14, 12:37
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/mschjuzw
#126
Posted 2025-November-14, 22:48
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/2p83va57
#127
Posted 2025-November-16, 10:07
The first link is to my table, where I was able to make my contract of 5D. West had what I think was an OBVIOUS lead of the heart king, but he stupidly and typically chose to lead his stiff trump (the diamond 6), allowing me to score 11 tricks when I guessed the line that happened to work.
The second link is to the same hand, but at another table. At that table, the human South was declaring 3NT. He successfully made his contract, scoring his 9 top tricks (7 diamonds and 2 clubs) after the GIB robot there ALSO made a typically STUPID lead. Amusingly, it was ALSO his stiff 6 of diamonds, so BOTH West robots chose to lead the same RIDICULOUS card (the diamond 6) against BOTH (very different) contracts, thereby allowing BOTH contracts to make. Now, there is NO bridge player who ALWAYS finds winning leads, and leading CAN sometimes be a guessing game, but that does not alter the fact that the GIB robots SO often make absolutely STUPID leads, as exemplified here.
Okay, now the two links. First, to my table here, and then the second will be in the post below this one:
https://www.bridgeba...S7%7Cmc%7C11%7C
#129
Posted 2025-November-16, 10:39
West, North, and East are all GIB robots. West is on lead against 3NT and seems to have two reasonable possibilities, a spade from KQJ8 or a diamond from QJ104. He opted for the diamond, perhaps because he correctly inferred from the auction that North held four spades.
On this particular random hand, the diamond lead was (or SHOULD have been!) the killer, because on the lead of any other suit, declarer has 9 TOP tricks, but the diamond queen traps dummy's K3 doubleton and EW now have (or SHOULD have!) 5 TOP diamond tricks of their own, to beat the contract one.
And yet I made (!)the contract anyway, after the EW robots totally botched the defense with a TYPICALLY inept performance. The diamond queen was covered by dummy's king, losing to East's ace, following which...East STUPIDLY returned the SEVEN of diamonds from his remaining holding of 8762. I, South, covered perforce with my only remaining diamond, the 9 (having started with 95 doubleton). West won his 10 and...SHIFTED (!) to the spade king. I, of course, won the spade ace and then cashed my 8 top tricks in clubs and hearts, thereby scoring plus 400 despite the fact that after the WINNING opening lead, EW had FIVE top tricks.
West had clearly been misled by his partner's stunningly stupid return of the SEVEN of diamonds, but West was FAR from blameless himself. Why? Because at the point he won trick two, he now already KNEW that South (who had opened 1NT, showing 15-17 HCP) had every remaining point in the deck apart from what West had in his own hand. He ALSO knew that South, who had responded 2H to Stayman, had at least 4 hearts. Therefore, he SHOULD have known that South had at least 9 TOP tricks when West shifted to ANYTHING except a diamond.
The GIB robots are abysmal defenders. The only thing that surprised me about their inept performance on this hand was that West actually made a decent opening lead! Since he's a GIB robot, I might have expected him to emulate the Wests in the two posts above...by leading his STIFF 6 of clubs (as opposed to the imbecilic leads of another STIFF 6 - in diamonds - on those two hands).
https://www.bridgeba...D6%7Cpc%7CS9%7C
#130
Posted Yesterday, 09:03
https://www.bridgeba...S3%7Cmc%7C11%7C
#131
Posted Yesterday, 09:18
After the given auction, why on Earth would North opt to lead a heart from Q852 rather than a spade from AQ742? Yes, leads can often involve guesswork, and yes, on some layouts a heart could work out better than a spade...but it certainly seems that a spade is a more "normal" lead (from a FIVE-bagger rather than a four-bagger) and will likely prove superior more often than not.
https://www.bridgeba...ST%7Cpc%7CS3%7C
#132
Posted Yesterday, 09:27
benellis58, on 2025-November-13, 17:31, said:
I think it's evident why I put "thought processes" and "logic" in quotation marks. For GIB robots, those quoted terms are rarely applicable.
That really is very gross.
I trust a real ("Advanced") GiB robot would not do the same (a hope, not an affirmation).
#133
Posted Yesterday, 17:05
#134
Posted Yesterday, 17:16
First, he made a highly questionable lead. Yes, leads can involve guesswork and luck, and yes, success or failure often depends on the random layout of the random hand being played, but his club lead looks strange and silly in any case.
Second, he was in a huge rush to pop his king of spades. It might not cost and might sometimes even be the winning play, but quite often these foolish GIB robots harm their defensive prospects with this type of (fear-induced?) hurry to grab their trick.
Third, having won his spade king at trick two, West decides his best possible action is to now play...another spade! The GIB robots LOVE to return the suit declarer just played. There's an old saying that if both sides play the same suit, ONE of the sides is wrong. In situations where the incompetent GIB robots do this, THEY are almost invariably the side that is wrong!
https://tinyurl.brid...se.com/338j2xc6
#135
Posted Today, 02:06
At trick 11, West leads the 5 of spades from K105. Declarer South calls for, perforce, the 8 of spades from dummy. GIB robot East makes a VERY stupid play that the hopeless GIB robots often make and that is usually wrong, namely third hand LOW. The incompetent GIB robot plays his JACK (rather than his ace) from AJ7, thereby allowing declarer South to win his queen (from Q96)...for South's TENTH trick in his 3NT contract. All East had to do to prevent the overtrick was to make the NORMAL and clearly CORRECT play of the ace (rather than his truly imbecilic play of the jack), and EW would have won all 3 of the last 3 tricks, but even a simple play like third hand high was beyond the capabilities of this clueless GIB robot.
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