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Posted Yesterday, 16:33
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Posted Today, 08:31
Undoubled NV tricks are cheap. And they might save us by bidding something. If it goes X pass pass, time to think.
Yes, in an ideal world, you bid 1S, they pass throughout, and you rebid 2S over partner s 1NT and concede 100 when teammates are +400. But most of the times, partner bids 2NT or 3H (or worse) and will not like dummy.
The ideal world happened to me once on a slightly stronger hand (QJ 5th void 3 small 5 small) but it was a weak field.
Yes, in an ideal world, you bid 1S, they pass throughout, and you rebid 2S over partner s 1NT and concede 100 when teammates are +400. But most of the times, partner bids 2NT or 3H (or worse) and will not like dummy.
The ideal world happened to me once on a slightly stronger hand (QJ 5th void 3 small 5 small) but it was a weak field.
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Posted Today, 08:39
Playing what I think you play, pass, playing what I play, 1♠.
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Posted Today, 08:44
When I pickup this hand I am already thinking what my response will be to an opening bid, I now pass in tempo.
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Posted Today, 08:45
Cyberyeti, on 2025-January-10, 08:39, said:
Playing what I think you play, pass, playing what I play, 1♠.
alerted?
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted Today, 09:16
jillybean, on 2025-January-10, 08:45, said:
alerted?
nope, for some reason I don't believe it needs to be here, I know 1♣-P-1♥ wasn't alertable on xxx, xxxx, xx, xxxx.
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Posted Today, 09:29
Thank you for the responses so far, appreciated.
I encourage more exposition.
I post this hand type under interesting hands but it really qualifies as fascinating for me.
One more reason to love this game, discuss bridge, debate it and learn new viewpoints
The posters here in the forums are very sharp, really informed and always interesting..
I encourage more exposition.
I post this hand type under interesting hands but it really qualifies as fascinating for me.
One more reason to love this game, discuss bridge, debate it and learn new viewpoints
The posters here in the forums are very sharp, really informed and always interesting..
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Posted Today, 09:40
More exposition, 3433 or 44(32) 15-19 is quite a likely hand shape in my system of 4M weak NT, and 3♠ will play better than 1♥ most of the time
If partner has a strong NT 15-19 without 4♠ I can bid 2♦ over it which shows a heap with 5 spades and 4-5 diamonds
If partner has a strong NT 15-19 without 4♠ I can bid 2♦ over it which shows a heap with 5 spades and 4-5 diamonds
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Posted Today, 09:43
Pass.
I can show 5+ ♠, but with a void in ♥ what is the likelihood opener rebids them?
I can show 5+ ♠, but with a void in ♥ what is the likelihood opener rebids them?
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Posted Today, 09:52
Cyberyeti, on 2025-January-10, 09:16, said:
nope, for some reason I don't believe it needs to be here, I know 1♣-P-1♥ wasn't alertable on xxx, xxxx, xx, xxxx.
Under the ACBL's rules, I think these bids would only be alertable if they're not forcing. It's kind of interesting that there are no alert requirements based on strength (or lack thereof). Playing online, I think it would be good sportsmanship to say "could have 0 points" if that's your agreement.
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