manudude03, on 2018-October-14, 16:56, said:
splinter is 9-13, 4H was a cuebid (not last train).
What would you bid now with a heart control?
The answer is obvious. You would bid 5
♥.
It follows that when you don't do this your points must be in the black suits.
Just bid 5
♠ and an intelligent partner can bid the slam. He knows you have nothing to cuebid in the red suits.
Optimism on your part is unjustified since partner can not even discard heart losers on expected club length in dummy.
rmnka447, on 2018-October-14, 17:10, said:
Partner also made a further move toward slam after you didn't show any interest in slam.
So 4
♦ was a game try?
lamford, on 2018-October-15, 18:02, said:
I would certainly be bidding slam here. Something like ♠KJxxx ♥none ♦xxx ♣AQxxx is enough, and I don't think partner has less than that. He could easily have ♠Kxxxx ♥none ♦Axx ♣AQxxx when grand is good. I would bid 6C, showing what could be a valuable card, as 6S is just a bit lazy.
And what would you do with these hands if partner bids 5
♠?
Where are partners points for a slam invite? Does the failure to control bid a red suit over 5
♣ not mark your hand with the ace of spades and the king of clubs?
Only a weak player would consider passing 5
♠ with either of these hands.
mikeh, on 2018-October-15, 14:22, said:
I find it a bit strange that so many posters are reading inferences into partner's failure to use keycard: it suggests that these players don't understand the limitations of keycard or the benefits of cue-bidding.
Keycard is not the old Blackwood. Standard is you start cue-bidding first or second round controls and then end up checking whether sufficient keycards are on board.
When partner apparently knows that all side suits are under control and you hold ace and queen of trumps and partner does not use key-card this is significant and one inference is that partner should know about a ten card fit.
Either partner has a void in hearts, in which case your failure to control bid heart will encourage him, or more likely partner has Kxxxxx in spades and your queen of spades is not needed for slam.
What you are left with are 8 HCP.
If partner can not bid slam over 5
♠ forget it.
A possible hand for partner
♠KJTxxx
♥Kx
♦Axx
♣Ax, where a heart honor instead of one of your spade honors in your hand would make slam good.
Rainer Herrmann