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Posted 2015-August-15, 06:02

System is faulty for sure, 2NT was wide ranged, 3 gave no info, and 4 was also wide ranged as there was no Texas. But other than that, what could had been improved?


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Posted 2015-August-15, 06:22

After 2NT, E should expect to have 7-8 tricks and from the given HCP range, he should expect 6+ cover cards. So he should drive to small slam (at least) unless there are 2 Aces missing.
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Posted 2015-August-15, 06:43

west can't do anything, despite his multitude of controls.

east on the other hand does have an 8 card suit. trumps = tricks. 5 level isn't safe but if you don't have a slam try available i'd just bid 5h.
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Posted 2015-August-15, 08:02

View PostFluffy, on 2015-August-15, 06:02, said:

System is faulty for sure, 2NT was wide ranged, 3 gave no info, and 4 was also wide ranged as there was no Texas. But other than that, what could had been improved?



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That is a lot of qualification. While any action by East other than 4 is a guess, it is an educated guess. Partner could easily have AAAAK with Ax of hearts, in which case 12 tricks should be easy. And partner represented a better hand than "just" AAAAK. So, at a minimum, East should bid 5 (5 is not unreasonable assuming that it will be read as a splinter). Leaping to 6 is not unreasonable.

As was previously mentioned, West could do nothing more than he did.
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Posted 2015-August-15, 08:38

View PostArtK78, on 2015-August-15, 08:02, said:

.... Leaping to 6 is not unreasonable....

Slam is not reasonable if missing 2 aces. The appropriate ask should determine number of aces. I prefer the ace ask after jacoby transfer route to slam. 52% odds on grand slam after finding 4 Aces and 1 K might be good shoot if opponents reliable 90%+ to reach small slam.
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Posted 2015-August-15, 09:25

East should be rushed in an ambulance to the nearest E.R. and checked for a pulse. 2NT showed 23+ per the explanation when I clicked on it.
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Posted 2015-August-15, 16:49

View Postneilkaz, on 2015-August-15, 09:25, said:

East should be rushed in an ambulance to the nearest E.R. and checked for a pulse. 2NT showed 23+ per the explanation when I clicked on it.

Two other possibilities: partner can't see all the hearts and needs an optometrist, or partner went to Harvard and cannot count.

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Posted 2015-August-16, 10:56

FWIW and to answer Fluffy's question:
- not having 3H mean sth (2 or 3 cd) *has to* be improved
- differentiating direct jump (or Xfer) to game vs. Xfer at 3 level and bid game can probably help as well (when 3H doesnt mean anything)
- E, having an 8-cd suit and facing 23+ that could be 28 as well could also do sth (5H although you might reach 6 w/o 2 aces bidding this way, is there a way to ask for aces or set trumps below 4H? I guessnot in the system you played there)
- or a punting auction starting w/ Gerber (which I don't play though) and any number of H depending on the answer?
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Posted 2015-August-16, 12:27

What about mentioning hearts earlier? I meam, is King eighth not enough to make a positive 2H? Is 3H instead available? Or, 4H even? Sure, transfer positives might work better, for me 2C-3C for hearts.
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