[diana_eva]

ACBL Speedball, no deep agreements (ie no leb style continuations over reverses). MPs, white vs red:

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[monikrazy]

3♦.


We will get the chance to show our 3-card spade support after a 3H or 3S continuation. If opener bids 3N we can pass.

[mike777]

2nt

I want to try and slow things down.

[MrAce]

2 NT for me as well.

[PhilKing]

Deprived of my beloved 2NT relay, I will show spade support. I expect the hand to play pretty well.

[Jinksy]

3♠ for me too. P knows we don't have four, and if we belong in NT (seems doubtful) he can bid it.

[PhantomSac]

Gut reaction was 3S but I think it's right to show diamonds so put me down for 3D.

[mikeh]

I think the technically correct answer is 2N, on the basis that if we belong in diamonds, he should be able to pattern out on the way to 3N via 3♦, which call would see me driving to slam. Meanwhile, if he bids, say, 3 of any other suit, we play in spades.

However, given the conditions of contest, including that speedball doesn't lend itself to delicate auctions and an unknown partner might opt not to pattern out (through ignorance or through fearing misunderstanding on my part), I will just bid 3♦. I am not willing to bid 3N with this club stopper, and I have an easy spade bid over his stall of 3♥.

[ggwhiz]

3♦ offers a safety valve if pard has 2 of them and doesn't like my spade preference next. Whatever they do over that isn't my problem (or business) anymore.

[diana_eva]

3♦ bidders, would you pass if partner bids 3NT next?

[PhilKing]

PhantomSac, on 2015-June-08, 14:48, said:

Gut reaction was 3S but I think it's right to show diamonds so put me down for 3D.

This may be a transatlantic thing - opposite a British partner, there is a pretty good chance 3♦ will end the bidding.

[nige1]

diana_eva, on 2015-June-08, 10:30, said:

ACBL Speedball, no deep agreements (ie no leb style continuations over reverses). MPs, white vs red:

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IMO 3♠ = 10, 3♦ = 9, 2N = 8, 4♠ = 6, Pass = 5.
With 45(31) shape, partner might have rebid 2m. With 4522 shape he might have rebid 2♣ or 2N. Hence, when he rebids 2♠ he probably has 6♥ and might also have 5♠. In the latter case, 4♠ should be OK. Anyway, ♠ contracts should be playable on a 4-3 fit. Since you've already denied 4 ♠, raising ♠ niow seems simple, descriptive and constructive.

[WesleyC]

Without some kind of system here, life is hard.

I'd try 3!s without much conviction.

[ggwhiz]

diana_eva, on 2015-June-08, 15:39, said:

3♦ bidders, would you pass if partner bids 3NT next?

I would expecting either diamond help or a very solid trick source in hearts. May need something like the ♥J to drop in 2 or 3 rounds though.

[diana_eva]

This was the full hand:

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I bid 3♠ at the table and partner raised to 4♠. He thought 3♦ or pass (?) was better. Then he wondered why we aren't playing flannery

[wank]

and i would wonder why he bid 2s

[diana_eva]

wank, on 2015-June-09, 18:24, said:

and i would wonder why he bid 2s

Some tables rebid 2♣ with his hand, but many more went with 2♠. Not sure which is best TBH, or if there's already a solution for this type of hand.

[mike777]

much prefer 2c rebid.

if pard then rebids 2d

we can pass or rebid 2nt.

[akwoo]

I think 2♠ is a terrible bid.

I'm generally a light-ish reverser, but not over 1N (forcing or not).

[gwnn]

diana_eva, on 2015-June-09, 18:16, said:

I bid 3♠ at the table and partner raised to 4♠. He thought 3♦ or pass (?) was better. Then he wondered why we aren't playing flannery

If he was thinking of Flannery, it means he doesn't have enough for a reverse.