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Opener's rebid with a near max

Poll: Opener's rebid with a near max (21 member(s) have cast votes)

Your rebid?

  1. 2C (15 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. 3C (5 votes [23.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.81%

  3. Would have opened 1NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Other (pls elaborate) (1 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#1 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2014-October-27, 20:12

Matchpoints


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Posted 2014-October-27, 20:14

I wouldn't have opened 1NT...but I think I rebid 2NT now. 3 doesn't feel right with both suits being a bit iffy. 2 isn't even in the right zip code.
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Posted 2014-October-27, 20:14

I wouldn't have opened 1NT...but I think I rebid 2NT now. 3 doesn't feel right with both suits being a bit iffy. 2 isn't even in the right zip code.
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Posted 2014-October-27, 20:33

2C.
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Posted 2014-October-27, 20:53

For me 1D is unbalanced and 2NT implies a spade shortage (though I want to change to playing it as 3 card support with a 6 card diamond suit). 1NT promises hearts, so let's try 3C - given the 3 card support, my hand has improved as my heart stiff rates to be well placed.
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Posted 2014-October-28, 01:04

3 with this hand. This hand may play very well in a Moysian fit. You have 17 really good HC points and can accommodate forces in s by ruffing in the short trump hand.

2 would be passable for quite a few players in the US. I don't think you can take that risk with this hand.
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Posted 2014-October-28, 01:38

Easy 2
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Posted 2014-October-28, 07:05

In standard this isn't really that close to a max, since you could have the CA as well and still open 1D. 2C is fine; the question comes after responder bids 2D. Is 2S invitational there or does one have to bid 3S?

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Posted 2014-October-28, 07:31

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-October-27, 20:12, said:


Matchpoints
Your rebid?
Agree with 1 opener. Now, IMO: 2 = 10, 3 = 9. A close decision.
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Posted 2014-October-28, 07:31

View PostTylerE, on 2014-October-27, 20:14, said:

I wouldn't have opened 1NT...but I think I rebid 2NT now. 3 doesn't feel right with both suits being a bit iffy. 2 isn't even in the right zip code.

I think you're off the map... :)

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Posted 2014-October-28, 07:39

Isn't Qxxxx Kxx xx Jxx passing 2?
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Posted 2014-October-28, 07:49

View Postahydra, on 2014-October-28, 07:05, said:

In standard this isn't really that close to a max, since you could have the CA as well and still open 1D. 2C is fine; the question comes after responder bids 2D. Is 2S invitational there or does one have to bid 3S?

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I read the topic as suggesting you would be a Max for 2C? Maybe that doesn't make sense.

I guess I agree with Tyler I am worried about getting passed when game is very good. Some of this may be a partnership style thing, but opening most 11 counts I could easily have

x
xxx
AKxxx
KJxx

And my hand is a lot better than that.

Edit: It would be so good to be playing 1NT here shows extras in an unbalanced diamond context, then I can bid 1NT and not the much dicey-er 3C like echognome and Phil suggested in the thread about transfer rebids by opener some time ago.
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Posted 2014-October-28, 08:24

View PostTylerE, on 2014-October-28, 07:39, said:

Isn't Qxxxx Kxx xx Jxx passing 2?

No, but Qxxxx Kxx x Jxxx is. The fact that you I can come up with a hand where 2 doesn't work well doesn't mean that 2 is the wrong call.

And, BTW, your 2NT doesn't work out well opposite that hand (yours or mine) either. You will be playing 2NT, either making an overtrick or going down, but never taking exactly 8 tricks...

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Posted 2014-October-28, 08:55

Hardly. Opposite my 2NT partner with 5 will bid 3, and we'll back into the spade fit.
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Posted 2014-October-28, 09:32

View PostTylerE, on 2014-October-28, 08:55, said:

Hardly. Opposite my 2NT partner with 5 will bid 3, and we'll back into the spade fit.

Now you're off the globe...

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Posted 2014-October-28, 10:58

Hardly. Never heard of checkback?
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Posted 2014-October-28, 11:33

2c

It isn't that the hand is far from 3c it is MP and we really do not have
to push for games. Indeed there will be some hand that fall through the
cracks that make 3n where p will pass 2c but there will be many more where
staying low will gain a lot of MP. If this were IMP I would be a ton more
tempted to try 3c. 2N has the advantage of being right on values but that
singleton heart A seems to make a great case for staying open to 4S and/or
5m and 2N will make the minors almost impossible to find.

2c = 9 3c = 5 2n = 5 2s = 3
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Posted 2014-October-28, 18:21

View PostTylerE, on 2014-October-28, 10:58, said:

Hardly. Never heard of checkback?


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Posted 2014-October-28, 19:52

View PostTylerE, on 2014-October-28, 10:58, said:

Hardly. Never heard of checkback?

never heard of pass?
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Posted 2014-October-28, 20:40

View PostTrinidad, on 2014-October-28, 08:24, said:

No, but Qxxxx Kxx x Jxxx is. The fact that you I can come up with a hand where 2 doesn't work well doesn't mean that 2 is the wrong call.


This seems like an example where rebidding 2C works well?
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