[eagles123]

at the ACOL on monday evening the bidding went

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I was dealer. 3H was alerted by me and i explained as a diamond raise. After the 4H bid I then asked about the 2H bid and what I thought was an LOL looked at me like I was crazy and I ellaborated what type of jump overcalls they play and she was just being incredibly evasive about the whole thing.

I am reasonably new to playing there and I don't know who most people are - the field is a very mixed standard so I thought it was just a weak pair or a pickup partnership maybe. However when I got home and checked the results I saw we were against a pair that have regularly come top and usually place at least in the top half.

I find it almost impossible that such a pair have no agreements on a what a jump overcall means but there is no requirement to provide a convention card or anything so I guess I can't proove it either way.


I have 2 questions:

1 - should I have done anything different at the table
2 - should I mention anything to club management/staff when I next go

many thanks

Eagles

[wank]

if you think the person is being deliberately evasive, call the director. don't worry about offending someone who's behaving like a tosser.

[1eyedjack]

Did they have a convention card? I know that does not excuse their rudeness nor absolve them of their obligation to respond, but sometimes it is just sensible to be practical.

[blackshoe]

I think you should have asked to see their system card. If they don't have one, call the director. If the card doesn't answer your questions, call the director, since they don't seem inclined to tell you what you want to know. When the director arrives, don't complain, and don't accuse, just relate the facts.

[billw55]

Personally, at a club game I just ignore it.

If you are going to do something, your first try should be to call the director. If he fails to rectify the situation, there is not much else that is practical.

[barmar]

Was she being deliberately evasive, or just confused that someone would ask for an explanation of such a common, everyday bidding sequence? Were you asking for something more detailed than just weak, intermediate, or strong? Did she refuse to even provide that level of description?

[Zelandakh]

Hard-core: If someone is confused try to make things easier for them as best you can. If you think someone is being deliberately evasive give them an interrogation with direct (optionally rapid-fire) questions (How many hearts does it promise? What is the hcp range? Are there any suit quality requirements? etc) If someone simply refuses to answer get the TD involved. Do not feel sad about offending someone being an arsehole! If the tournament venue does not think that it is worth playing by the rules then it is not worthy of receiving your money either.

In truth, probably a better approach is to do what you did for the first incident. Now you have their card marked - if they are evasive again you know what to do.