[Cyberyeti]

jdeegan, on 2013-October-31, 05:04, said:

Fair enough. Minus 800 or 1100 is no worries. Minus 200 or 300 after all pass is only a routine concern. After all, your opponents are from a generation raised on matchpoint scoring and negative doubles. Now we are into IMP scoring which is more like the old days. Anyone willing to consider an overcall of 1NT with this hand the first time? Personally, I would never do it.

-800 is a risk you take, the same risk you take that it might go 1♠-X-XX-P- or 1♠-X-P-2♦ where by our methods I can't bid 2♥ as this shows a bigger hand than this.

I feel the hand is too good for 1N but only just, what do we need for game ? xxx, QJx, Qxxx, Qxx ? remove the minor suit jacks and I might do it.

[NickRW]

jdeegan, on 2013-October-31, 05:04, said:

Anyone willing to consider an overcall of 1NT with this hand the first time? Personally, I would never do it.

I think I might have.

[aguahombre]

helene_t, on 2013-October-29, 06:55, said:

Depends. If double by partner would have shown diamonds then the lack of double is a good sign

Our problem with that inference is that the Double would have shown diamonds, but also some competitive values as an advance of the T/O dbl -- thus responsive in nature with (say) 2-3-4-4 or somesuch. So, if she had Doubled 2D, a simple 3H might not even be enough. One of the bad guys is messing around.

So, I am not tempted to act again regardless.

[HighLow21]

Choice has to be between double (to show extra values) and pass. It's very likely any response by partner will lead to a minus score, and given the poor intermediates and playing MP good chance one opponent will double the final contract. Even -1 doubled is a tragedy.

It all comes down to whether you think the opponents are on the level -- they may not be, but if you're wrong you go down hard. Opponent bidding suggests partner has maybe a queen and a jack somewhere.