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#1 User is offline   patroclo 

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Posted 2013-September-27, 03:59


What your bid: 1 nt or 1 spade
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Posted 2013-September-27, 05:26

1NT for me
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Posted 2013-September-27, 05:56

View Postthe_clown, on 2013-September-27, 05:26, said:

1NT for me

you are in a good company ;)
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Posted 2013-September-27, 06:49

1♠ whatever my NT range
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Posted 2013-September-27, 08:07

With no aces and a perfectly good 1♠-2♦ description, I see no need to distort this into a 15-17 1NT.
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Posted 2013-September-27, 08:24

View Postbillw55, on 2013-September-27, 08:07, said:

With no aces and a perfectly good 1♠-2♦ description, I see no need to distort this into a 15-17 1NT.


I would think the lack of aces argues for NT over a suit contract?

I can see arguments for both 1S and 1NT (if playing 5-card stayman over 1NT). I'm forced into opening 1S because I play a weak NT; but it is also what my partner would expect me to do if we played a strong NT, I'm sure.

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Posted 2013-September-27, 09:06

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-September-27, 06:49, said:

1♠ whatever my NT range

Yes, and it would be nice if the OP in this and so many other bidding threads could at least specify his NT range, and also scoring and vul as that may matter to some.

Playing normal 15-17 I see no reason to upgrade here and also no reason to distort my shape.
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Posted 2013-September-27, 09:56

Oh, how embarrassing. I didn't even notice it had only 14 HCP! So, what is the 1NT range?

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Posted 2013-September-27, 10:20

If we are going to play in no-trumps then my valuation of this hand is much lower if it will be dummy. I don't like opening NT with this shape, but I will make an exception here. I think it is too good for 12-14 1NT though.
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Posted 2013-September-27, 15:28

I would always open 1♠ and it going to take more than Kranyak and one or two others doing it in the BB with mixed success to convince me otherwise. Amusingly, there was a hand later in the same set where Kranyak picked up a 4333 14 and opened one of a minor. Someone commented that his strength was enough for a 15-17 NT but the shape was maybe too flat.
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Posted 2013-September-28, 12:04

I guess the "Expert-Class" part of the problem is to figure out the NT range and what system is being played.
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Posted 2013-September-29, 00:35

View Postpatroclo, on 2013-September-27, 03:59, said:


What your bid: 1 nt or 1 spade


I would open 1♦ And before the howls of protest start. Remember when you open the bidding you
promise a rebid if partner changes the suit. If you open 1♠ on the hand given what do you rebid over a
2♥ response? 2♠ would promise a 6 card suit,2 NT would show 15+ points. Opening 1♦
first means you can accommodate a 1♥ response with 1 ♠. Both suits have been shown and the bidding
is kept at a low and safe level.
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Posted 2013-September-29, 00:56

View Postjohnu, on 2013-September-28, 12:04, said:

I guess the "Expert-Class" part of the problem is to figure out the NT range and what system is being played.


Or which one has more sense in the long term.
In a world Championship hand Usa1 open 1 nt (red) an go 1nt -3
Monaco open 1 spade and go 2spade made,

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Posted 2013-September-29, 05:34

- pass when playing strong pass
- 1♣ when playing Magic Diamond
- 1♦ when playing canapé
- 1♥ when playing MOSCITO
- 1♠ when playing a natural system
- 1NT never
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Posted 2013-September-29, 06:25

I see a clear 1S opening and am not fond of NT openings without any aces.
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Posted 2013-September-30, 12:36

View PostPhilG007, on 2013-September-29, 00:35, said:

I would open 1♦ And before the howls of protest start. Remember when you open the bidding you
promise a rebid if partner changes the suit. If you open 1♠ on the hand given what do you rebid over a
2♥ response? 2♠ would promise a 6 card suit,2 NT would show 15+ points. Opening 1♦
first means you can accommodate a 1♥ response with 1 ♠. Both suits have been shown and the bidding
is kept at a low and safe level.


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Posted 2013-September-30, 14:58

View Postpatroclo, on 2013-September-27, 03:59, said:


What your bid: 1 nt or 1 spade
IMO 1N = 10, 1♠ = 9. If your partners are fanatical advocates of Gazzilli and Puppet Stayman, then you tend to get into the habit of opening 1N with a good 14-15 HCP and tenaces, even when a bit off-shape with a 5-card major.
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Posted 2013-September-30, 15:29

View Postmcphee, on 2013-September-29, 06:25, said:

I see a clear 1S opening and am not fond of NT openings without any aces.

This was my reason for thinking of opening 1NT :) Fair to say we're oceans apart.
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