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WE OWN OCTOBER 2013 vs JEC 5/12/19/26 every saturday we can get hammered

#21 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2013-October-14, 20:44

We are confirming for this Saturday 10/19. I've asked the rest of my team to post as well.
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Posted 2013-October-15, 00:25

Yeap, confirmed for 10/19. Thanks!
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Posted 2013-October-15, 00:33

Confirmed for 10/19. It is 11 am Pacific, right?
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Posted 2013-October-17, 16:58

View PostElianna, on 2013-October-14, 20:37, said:

Exciting!

It is Thursday night and our team of four DRUM ROLL PLEASE

REPRESENTING THE BBO FORUMS POSTERS 10/19 are:


awm - sieong
elianna - mbodell

I am assuming those are coprrect bbo names and I will be passing them along to
the proper authorities and alertingthe medical staff to keep a sharp eye on their
vital signs throughout play and shortly after:)))))))))))))))))))) Good LUCK



I will also send a separate message to each player informing them of their
impending match
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Posted 2013-October-19, 14:53

REALLY not our day... lost by 120-31. Thanks for letting us play, and good luck to the next team.
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Posted 2013-October-19, 21:55

Thanks for letting us play. Good luck to the next team.
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Posted 2013-October-20, 00:33

Tough match, thank you for giving it a shot....was there any signal takeaway such as we need to bid more games or other?
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Posted 2013-October-20, 08:18

View Postmike777, on 2013-October-20, 00:33, said:

Tough match, thank you for giving it a shot....was there any signal takeaway such as we need to bid more games or other?


This match seemed to follow the same theme as the couple I've played: We lose more IMPs by underbidding than by overbidding.
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Posted 2013-October-20, 12:37

The one comment I can make (other than pure mistakes) is that Cayne's teams seem very aggressive in slam bidding. We lose a lot of IMPs where they bid slam and we don't, or where they bid grand and we stop in a small slam. In fact this seems to hold almost regardless of what team we put up. Most of our closer matches seem to be those where few slams are available at either table, whereas the blowouts usually occur when there are many slam swings available. In some cases it appears they are very lucky (in that they bid bad slams that happen to make, or they bid a good slam in an extremely unconvincing manner) but the trend is pretty consistent.
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Posted 2013-October-20, 14:55

View Postawm, on 2013-October-20, 12:37, said:

The one comment I can make (other than pure mistakes) is that Cayne's teams seem very aggressive in slam bidding.


This fact should not, by itself, decrease the BBF team's expectation of winning. Very aggressive slam bidding implies ending up in many low percentage slams, which (by definition) one would expect to be defeated more often than not. How often have we see swings to BBF when the JEC pair has gone off in slam in the other room?

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We lose a lot of IMPs where they bid slam and we don't, or where they bid grand and we stop in a small slam. In fact this seems to hold almost regardless of what team we put up. Most of our closer matches seem to be those where few slams are available at either table, whereas the blowouts usually occur when there are many slam swings available. In some cases it appears they are very lucky (in that they bid bad slams that happen to make, or they bid a good slam in an extremely unconvincing manner) but the trend is pretty consistent.


If you are intending to imply what I think you are implying, then you are probably right.
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Posted 2013-October-20, 15:10

View Postjallerton, on 2013-October-20, 14:55, said:

This fact should not, by itself, decrease the BBF team's expectation of winning. Very aggressive slam bidding implies ending up in many low percentage slams, which (by definition) one would expect to be defeated more often than not. How often have we see swings to BBF when the JEC pair has gone off in slam in the other room?

If you are intending to imply what I think you are implying, then you are probably right.


Given the relatively large number of boards that have been played, we probably have enough for a reasonable statistical analysis...
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Posted 2013-October-23, 18:13

we have a tie break situation occurring and I will probably have to go and find the rule book to
get this one right AS IT STANDS wed evening

Phoenix214 (poster) Neaospsy (non poster) were first to ask
Jillybean/Kristen 33 were second to ask But pretty low on seniority list due to recent loss.
A team which would have highest priority BUT not all players have committed
Diana_Eva Hrothgar MrAce and who knows???? it is the who knows that creates the problem
If we do not have a commitment from who knows by noon eastern tomorrow my intention is

to go with Phoenix214 Neaospsy and DianaEva Hrothgar if that falls through backup will be
phoenix214 neasopsy Jillybean Kristen33

So we have about 16 hours for the partner of MrAce to come forward and be recognized:)
BTW anyone that commits and cannot make it I will do what I think is reasonable to
replace them (see that darned seniority list thing I made up a while back:))))))))))))))))))))))



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Posted 2013-October-25, 08:38

Good luck Diana_Eva Hrothgar MrAce and #4, I'm sure we will see the 2nd BBF win.

As it doesn't look like you are short of players my partner and I will be playing a CNTC qualifying game on Saturday now.
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Posted 2013-October-25, 08:48

View Postjillybean, on 2013-October-25, 08:38, said:

Good luckDiana_Eva Hrothgar MrAce and #4, I'm sure we will see the 2nd BBF win.

As it doesn't look like you are short of players my partner and I will be playing a CNTC qualifying game on Saturday now.


I am confirming my presence tomorrow.

Please remind me what time this starts (I think it is 1:00 EST)
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Posted 2013-October-25, 11:16

View Posthrothgar, on 2013-October-25, 08:48, said:

I am confirming my presence tomorrow.

Please remind me what time this starts (I think it is 1:00 EST)


The matches are at 2 pm Eastern (11 am Pacific).
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Posted 2013-October-25, 13:47

I am playing with Cherdano.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





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Posted 2013-October-25, 13:52

Yay! :) Posting something deep and meaningful to confirm we're all in for tomorrow.

diana_eva + hrothgar
mrace + cherdano

Timo - Arend at Jec's table.

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Posted 2013-October-25, 13:55

Dream team Posted Image
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





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Posted 2013-October-25, 14:14

I checked with Larry, Arend and i am playing vs 2 old guys. Benito and JEC. Someone called Sillafu or something, do you guys know if he is any good ? Posted Image
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





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Posted 2013-October-25, 14:29

according to the "rules" since we did not have a full team by noon eastern

the set up for sat 2pm eastern is



Phoenix214 Neaospsy and DianaEva Hrothgar



If anyone wishes to contact one pair or the other and ask them to step aside they may do so
but I will not get involved with that. This choice was based on seniority combined with first come
first served. Please read the post I made to jillybean when that pair tried to reserve a spot but
one of them had not confirmed. Same principle applied to Diana Eva team that had 3 but the 4th
did not materialize in time for the "team" to beat out Neaospsy and phoenix214 (both first time
players and the first to respond). Good luck all ------now excuse me while I go get the storm
shutters since I have a feeling this will not be popular let the arguments fly----------------------
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