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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2012-May-11, 10:07



First of all, people ok with the first pass? 2 by an unpassed hand would be a one round force in our methods. Now what?
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Posted 2012-May-11, 10:11

Pass then 4D is fine
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Posted 2012-May-11, 10:24

Yes, p / 4 looks right. Partner needs to have a really good hand to be coming in here.
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Posted 2012-May-11, 10:46


CSGibson asks "First of all, people ok with the first pass? 2 by an unpassed hand would be a one round force in our methods. Now what?"


IMO
- 1st round pass is fine.
- Now, 3 = 10, 4 = 9, 5 = 8, 4 = 7, 3 = 5, 4 = 4, 3 = 3.
I don't think partner is advertising a mountain. Sufficient would be e.g. AQxx QJxxxx Kxx -

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Posted 2012-May-11, 11:07

View Postnige1, on 2012-May-11, 10:46, said:

- Now, 3 = 10, 4 = 9, 5 = 8, 4 = 7, 3 = 5, 4 = 4, 3 = 3.
I don't think partner is advertising a mountain. Sufficient would be e.g. AQxx QJxxxx Kxx -
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I think the opps would be a lot more excited if they had an 11-fit in clubs (unless they were split 7-4 or something with the 2C bidder having a mammoth hand). And I'd say that 3/10 for bidding your 3-card spade suit is rather generous :) [I might even award 3S negative points!]

I agree though that partner need not have an amazing hand. Say AJxx KQJxx Kx xx. We have some good cards but we've no fit for partner (most likely), two club losers (most likely) and only 6 HCP. So I'll go with 3D.

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Posted 2012-May-11, 12:00

View Postahydra, on 2012-May-11, 11:07, said:

I agree though that partner need not have an amazing hand. Say AJxx KQJxx Kx xx. We have some good cards but we've no fit for partner (most likely), two club losers (most likely) and only 6 HCP. So I'll go with 3D.

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I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I have a good partner, not someone who would X on that dreck after I've failed to: 1) Raise to 2H, or 2) make a negative double.
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Posted 2012-May-11, 13:52

I'm still wondering about the thread title...
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Posted 2012-May-11, 14:26

I would bid 4C suggesting diamonds a doubleton H and maximum values for my pass. 4D would often show stiff H.
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Posted 2012-May-11, 14:48

View PostBbradley62, on 2012-May-11, 13:52, said:

I'm still wondering about the thread title...


No Platnick = just Diamond(s)
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Posted 2012-May-11, 15:20

View PostCSGibson, on 2012-May-11, 14:48, said:

No Platnick = just Diamond(s)
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Posted 2012-May-15, 22:31

Partner's double shows a good hand, 16-17+ -- might be shaded a little if distributional.

First round pass was fine. You are a touch too strong for a WJS in s.

3 looks right at this point.
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Posted 2012-May-16, 13:32

First off, I like the title. Second, the hand isn't right for a WJS - I want a 7th diamond, especially at this vulnerability. So passing on the 1st round is what I'd do. Third, from what you've said 4 is the best call, but if you are 'out of luck' 3 might be a possibility. With anyone I've ever played with though, 3 would be the only call.
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