1C Opener Facing No Trump Response
#1
Posted 2011-March-18, 06:41
Wei presented a style of rebids for a 1C opener to a no trump bid by responder that are unlike anything I have seen in 2/1. For example, a 1C opener facing a 1N bid by responder would rebid his five card suit if he had one hoping to find responder with three cards in that suit and go to game in that suit.
However, 1C opener also has the option of using Jacoby transfers over 1N/2N bids by responder.
Which method is the most common: Wei's or Jacoby?
Do I need working knowledge of both methods?
#2
Posted 2011-March-18, 07:31
gurgistan, on 2011-March-18, 06:41, said:
Wei presented a style of rebids for a 1C opener to a no trump bid by responder that are unlike anything I have seen in 2/1. For example, a 1C opener facing a 1N bid by responder would rebid his five card suit if he had one hoping to find responder with three cards in that suit and go to game in that suit.
However, 1C opener also has the option of using Jacoby transfers over 1N/2N bids by responder.
Which method is the most common: Wei's or Jacoby?
Do I need working knowledge of both methods?
I don't recall precisely when Wei's book was written, but is probably about 4 decades old at this point.
If you are trying to learn Precision, I would strongly recommend that you start with a more modern book.
I'm fairly idiosyncratic: I always thought that Jannerstein did the best job presenting Precision.
(Yes, I recognize how ridiculous it is to recommend using a moden book and then pointing someone at Jannerstein)
I'm also quite fond of Rigal's Precision in the 90s, though I find his presentation of symmetric relay impenetrable
I know that other folks are fond of Manely's book...
#3
Posted 2011-March-18, 07:56
Jacoby is more common to keep one scheme after any/all NT.
#4
Posted 2011-March-18, 15:27
If I were starting a new Precision partnership, I'd use Rigal or Berkowitz and Manley.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#5
Posted 2011-March-18, 15:38
#6
Posted 2011-March-18, 20:40
#7
Posted 2011-March-18, 22:10
#8
Posted 2011-March-19, 00:31
the hog, on 2011-March-18, 22:10, said:
Agree about 1N, but 2D for all balanced hands covers too many hand strengths. Also, you don't want to pattern the balanced hands. You want opener to pattern when he is unbalanced and responder is balanced.
#9
Posted 2011-March-19, 05:38
straube, on 2011-March-19, 00:31, said:
Never had a problem with wide ranging response strength. Just use a CP ask if you need to.
#10
Posted 2011-March-20, 03:00
#11
Posted 2011-March-20, 12:25
Zelandakh, on 2011-March-20, 03:00, said:
I think there's only 16 balanced hand patterns (excluding 5332s) but with space available for only 21 there is not enough room to ascertain strength before 3N has been passed. We use 1C-1H to show a semipositive response and 1C-1H, 1S-2D shows a balanced hand (not 5332) which leaves enough room to pattern out. Opener knows the strength to be 3-5 queen points which is tight enough.