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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-July-05, 19:14

Your lead after

2D-2H
2N-3N

2D was multi, 2N was 20-22 bal

QJx
JT
Q9xxx
Jxx

is there some interesting inference about the 2H response?

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Posted 2010-July-05, 20:27

gwnn, on Jul 5 2010, 08:14 PM, said:

Your lead after

2D-2H
2N-3N

2D was multi, 2N was 20-22 bal

QJx
JT
Q9xxx
Jxx

is there some interesting inference about the 2H response?

Matchpoints all vulnerable.

no effort to find a major suit fit->lead a major. I would try the Q
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Posted 2010-July-05, 21:20

At matchpoints I would be little bit concerned about blowing a trick if dummy tracks with K10x so I'm going to try the J as that seems most likley to be partner's suit and if it happens to be declarer's suit it's not likely to cost. I don't see much merit in leading from my entry-less suit that may well be into a tenace anyway.

I would typically read into the 2 bid that responder doesn't have 4 as a hand with 4 would usually bid 2 (to play opposite a weak 2 in but is interested in competing to at least 3 opposite ). If my oppos are green vs red the 2 bidder probably doesn't have 3.
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Posted 2010-July-05, 21:54

I'm an idiot so I lead the J
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2010-July-05, 22:00

id just lead a because i suck at bridge
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Posted 2010-July-05, 22:02

I don't feel strongly about this (except I would never lead a club!)

The Q is reasonable, but perhaps it does involve some risk for an unclear upside (i.e. we are not leading our long suit, we are only hoping that partner has long spades and an entry or a threat of an entry).

So I would probably choose between a completely passive heart (with dummy not likely to have 4 or more hearts) and the 4th best from longest and strongest diamond. Not being a genius, I think I lead the diamond, but without any great conviction.
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Posted 2010-July-05, 23:51

Definitely a heart at MPs. Dummy is not coming down with a pile of hearts. Declarer may have some however.

Maybe a heart at IMPs too, I don't know.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 00:04

I don't understand why we are taking a huge inference from the 2 bid, we know he likely doesn't have 4 in either major since no stayman so I will lead spades since they are better than my hearts.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 03:23

When V you can't conclude much from 2 P/C. NV and MP's would completely different. Now I'm more for a lead.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 04:11

At IMP's it would be a

Here at MP's I could easily be convinced to go passive.

I would choose a heart.

There is a slight inference from the 2 bid; some players would bid 2 with 1 and 3 (some even with 2-3), especially if the weak two's in 2 are six-card suits.

That's not the main reason for a heart though. The main reason is, that a heart is more passive. Double dummy it is 100% passive to lead a heart, if declarer has the needed entries, while a spade could cost a trick.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 05:05

I'm a geniuos who leads diamond without second thought, I suck at bridge too.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 06:30

It seems very normal to lead a diamond.

Perhaps at matchpoints a heart or a spade is safer.

There is a premium on these auctions for leading a major but there is also a premium on leading your five-card suits.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 08:12

Yes.

Oh, it's a bridge question. I would try Q. When RHO has most of the strength, QJx is a reasonably attractive holding to lead from, since even if partner can't help, there is a good chance that AK are to our right.
Leading diamonds without an entry doesn't seem right here.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 13:32

I also lead a spade, altho in these situations, I generally find that the traditional 4th best works better than my attempts to be a genius. Oh well, one of these days I'll make a good lead.

I don't think there is much to any inference from 2H. Any such inference was virtually and perhaps entirely negated by the subsequent failure to haul out stayman...for example, I don't buy that responder would be bidding 2 with 2=3 or 3=3 in the majors with a weak hand....such a call is begging for trouble.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 16:01

Ht lead. I'm hoping to hit partner's suit.

Responder's 2H said he did not have enough for a Ht invite: 2S bid ( a la Oleberg ).
He also did not bid Stayman or transfer.... he has more minor cards than majors.
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Posted 2010-July-06, 16:27

from today's patton

1NT-3NT

nowosadski on lead with

xxx
KQ9
Qxxxx
xx

He led K and hit partner with AJxx and out, 600 only saving 1 VP.
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Posted 2010-July-08, 19:08

anything works here except a diamond, and I think spades are best. but i dont remember
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Posted 2010-July-09, 00:26

gwnn, on Jul 9 2010, 10:08 AM, said:

anything works here except a diamond, and I think spades are best. but i dont remember

Now I am a genius and lead a spade.

Without your help I had find the only bad lead.
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Posted 2010-July-09, 02:07

I just remembered that club also gives a away a trick since now they find the Jack. I lead a heart at the table and then we started misdefending in an atrocious fashion so we got back to the diamond leaders' score of -660 and about 45%. It took some real genius to save us from a zero.
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