[the hog]

whereagles, on Oct 28 2007, 07:41 AM, said:

Well.. ok, change a club into a spade or something.

Still, I'm surprised you (and justin) bidding over a reopening 3♠. It's common practice to place pard with 7-8 points when bidding over a preempt, so, using the old 'move a queen' balancing rule, it seems normal to place pard with 9-10 points when BALANCING over a preempt.

The hand I gave has 10 hcp, so it's more or less what pard expects me to have if he balances. Thus, I wouldn't bid on. After all, next time he has, say,

KQxxxx
Kxx
xx
Kx

and even 3♠ is going to be a struggle...

Yeah, you have a point I guess. Maybe 4 is a better bid.

[jikl]

I think I am a 1♠ or 3NT or 4♠ bidder actually. Given I have ♠ I can always out rank them. I have zero defence but I have a damn good suit, yet given how bad some of my preempts are partner will never believe what I have anyway.

Sean

[cherdano]

whereagles, on Oct 27 2007, 06:41 PM, said:

Well.. ok, change a club into a spade or something.

Still, I'm surprised you (and justin) bidding over a reopening 3♠. It's common practice to place pard with 7-8 points when bidding over a preempt, so, using the old 'move a queen' balancing rule, it seems normal to place pard with 9-10 points when BALANCING over a preempt.

The hand I gave has 10 hcp, so it's more or less what pard expects me to have if he balances. Thus, I wouldn't bid on. After all, next time he has, say,

KQxxxx
Kxx
xx
Kx

and even 3♠ is going to be a struggle...

There is no balancing over 3-level preempts.

[han]

3S is quite wide-ranging, partner has an automatic raise with the 10-count and 3 spades. Partner even has an automatic raise with the 2 aces and 3 spades.

[skjaeran]

Hannie, on Oct 28 2007, 06:07 PM, said:

3S is quite wide-ranging, partner has an automatic raise with the 10-count and 3 spades. Partner even has an automatic raise with the 2 aces and 3 spades.

Agree.

[whereagles]

Sounds like a bit of results-merchandizing to me, but ok

[SchTsch]

Hannie, on Oct 28 2007, 11:07 AM, said:

3S is quite wide-ranging, partner has an automatic raise with the 10-count and 3 spades. Partner even has an automatic raise with the 2 aces and 3 spades.

And the odds of partner having 3 spades when we have AKQ seventh are probably enormous.
Yeah, right.

[han]

Not sure what that is supposed to mean. Wereagles gave a hand with 3 spades. I said the raise is automatic, even when you remove the queen.

[SchTsch]

That means that I don't see the point in analysis focused on partner's 3 card support, because the odds are too low.