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Poll: what's your bid (28 member(s) have cast votes)

what's your bid

  1. 3 hearts (16 votes [57.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.14%

  2. 3 spades (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  3. 3 no trump (8 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  4. 4 clubs (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  5. other (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2007-October-15, 14:27

♠A83
♥K3
♦AQ9
♣KJ762


S - N
1NT-2♣
2♦-3♦
??

Sorry about 1NT, but no spot cards, tenaces and weak suit.... I hope you at least find it reasonable and live with it :).
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Posted 2007-October-15, 14:51

What is the form of scoring, and what does 3♦ mean? Forcing and natural? Invitational and natural? Something else?
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Posted 2007-October-15, 15:26

1NT is normal, the 5 card suit is not good enough to upgrade. I raise now, there are many very minimal hands for partner that are golden for slam, especially if his major is hearts (I assume this promises a 4 card major?) There is also a very good chance that we have one of the majors stopped just once, so 3NT could be in jeopardy.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 15:58

Fluffy, on Oct 15 2007, 03:27 PM, said:

♠A83
♥K3
♦AQ9
♣KJ762


S - N
1NT-2♣
2♦-3♦
??

Sorry about 1NT, but no spot cards, tenaces and weak suit.... I hope you at least find it reasonable and live with it :blink:.

3H

I assume 3d is 100% natural and game forcing.
3H agrees D and is a cuebid.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 17:08

Agree with 3H.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 17:38

Hi,

Now 3H, a cue in support of diamonds, showing a forward going
hand, assuming 3D shows 6-4.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2007-October-15, 20:10

I'd raise diamonds also. This is the way to show a great hand for diamonds.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 20:58

3♥ for me also. I don't like my overall hand for partner, but I'm just too good in diamonds to not make a helping gesture.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 21:14

kenrexford, on Oct 15 2007, 09:58 PM, said:

3♥ for me also. I don't like my overall hand for partner, but I'm just too good in diamonds to not make a helping gesture.

Yeah I agree with this.
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Posted 2007-October-15, 21:26

Jlall, on Oct 15 2007, 10:14 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Oct 15 2007, 09:58 PM, said:

3♥ for me also.  I don't like my overall hand for partner, but I'm just too good in diamonds to not make a helping gesture.

Yeah I agree with this.

As do I and this hand is not an upgrade for me playing my usual 15-17.

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Posted 2007-October-16, 02:55

1NT normal, 3♥ normal ! :P
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Posted 2007-October-16, 02:58

3♥ here. If pard now skips 3NT, he should have a singleton spade and we're on to one of those magical "Axx vs x" fitting shortness slams.

Would bid a direct 4♦ with the club ace instead of KJ.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 06:11

I bid 4♣, what do you wexpect for that bid?
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Posted 2007-October-16, 06:20

Fluffy, on Oct 16 2007, 02:11 PM, said:

I bid 4♣, what do you wexpect for that bid?

Jx-Jx-AQxx-AKxxx. Doesn't have to be that extreme maybe, but a hand that can't cue a major and wants to play in diamonds.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 06:26

Fluffy, on Oct 16 2007, 01:11 PM, said:

I bid 4♣, what do you wexpect for that bid?

No major control ;)
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Posted 2007-October-16, 08:25

4D

Show interest and hear what partner has to say. [Edit: Only one vote for 'other'?]
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Posted 2007-October-16, 11:47

oki doki, time for a play problem :)
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Posted 2007-October-16, 12:13

I'll cue 3♥ here in line with the majority.
I don't understand why some raise to 4♦, preempting controlshowing.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 13:11

skaeran, on Oct 16 2007, 01:13 PM, said:

I'll cue 3♥ here in line with the majority.
I don't understand why some raise to 4♦, preempting controlshowing.

I prefer to show values below 3NT and want better than Kx. Really I have no problem with 3♥ either, so long as the people who bid it aren't planning on passing 3NT.
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Posted 2007-October-16, 13:24

skaeran, on Oct 16 2007, 01:13 PM, said:

I'll cue 3♥ here in line with the majority.
I don't understand why some raise to 4♦, preempting controlshowing.

I think 4D implies major controls. I don't understand, otherwise, what my hand is. I haven't bid 3NT or 4C.
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