[FrancesHinden]

NV against V, still IMPs converted to VPs

♠ QJ7
♥ A8642
♦ –
♣ A8642

RHO deals
1♦…1♥….3♦….4♥
5♦….?

1♦ = in a strong club system, but promises 4+ diamonds
3♦ = limit raise

[Mbodell]

What was the 4♥ bid? Assuming it is preemptive and with a "to make game" hand partner could cue ♦ I'd pass and hope that the surprising bad trump split helps us set them.

[pclayton]

If I know my pard I double. I'll bet you CHO has club shortness, and the defense will start very quickly.

[mikeh]

I bid 5♥.

This is a bit of a guess, but on these hands, it is usually correct to bid one more.

I have some chance of making this (picture xxxx Kxxxx xx Kx, they have to find their (possibly non-existent) ruff to beat me most times). And there is some limited chance they can make 5♦.

Down 1 both ways is a useful number of imps, but if either contract makes, bidding 5♥ is the big winner, and I think the chances of one or both making (both = unlikely given my blacks) is high enough to take the push.

[Fluffy]

55 asks for bidding one more, 3-0 on the others even more.

[cherdano]

pclayton, on Oct 1 2007, 09:05 AM, said:

If I know my pard I double. I'll bet you CHO has club shortness, and the defense will start very quickly.

Or CHO has diamond shortness, and the defense will end rather quickly...

I would bid 5♥.

[ArtK78]

This would be an automatic 5♥ bid if my suits were KQxxx KQxxx, or if I were 6-5 (although I haven't worked out what I am going to do if the opps bid on to 6♦). With Axxxx Axxxx there is a significant possibility of going plus against 5♦.

I pass. Partner has a better idea of what he has for his 4♥ bid than I do. This pass is not forcing. I hope that he can get it right.

[pclayton]

cherdano, on Oct 1 2007, 08:42 AM, said:

pclayton, on Oct 1 2007, 09:05 AM, said:

If I know my pard I double. I'll bet you CHO has club shortness, and the defense will start very quickly.

Or CHO has diamond shortness, and the defense will end rather quickly...

I would bid 5♥.

I doubt 5♥ will be much fun if pard has a stiff diamond opposite our void.

[Codo]

I would pass too

[skjaeran]

Even the fact that my two suits are identical won't persuade me to make another bid.
Pass - hope to beat them.

[whereagles]

I'm going to 5♥. After all, I'll be playing it.. lol.

[skjaeran]

whereagles, on Oct 2 2007, 09:35 PM, said:

I'm going to 5♥. After all, I'll be playing it.. lol.

I'm passing. After all, I'll be defending it.. lol.

[whereagles]

each to its own preference

[han]

I pass, interesting hand and thread.

[Impact]

Don't know - and jammed by the auction as anything COULD be right (depends on his relative C length/D strength and H).

Assume we play weak or VERY strong 2NT overcall (or maybe we wanted to keep S in the picture which I appreciate myself) but we have foregone the opportunity to show both suits so it is a guess.
We know he didn't want to set up a forcing situation with 4D, but unless he has C length we have good defence (looks like 1 trick in each suit but of course he might just have 5H).

When I don't know and there is no indication (but he MIGHT know) I am willing to give him a chance to do whatever is right (or pass the buck!)
PASS....
so what worked...and what did he have...?
regards

[FrancesHinden]

This time I'm up to 7 passers and 4 bidders, but I still got mikeh and jlall coming down on different sides of the fence, so I'll count it as another successful problem!

This is another hand where you know pass is wrong: if 5D is making you want to save; if 5D is going off you want to double. It's wildly improbably that 5H is going for 800.

Anyway, I got this one wrong as well when I passed, hoping for 3 defensive tricks. Sadly 5D makes, and 5Hx is -300. Partner has xxxx KJxxx x xxx and declarer's spade loser goes on a club honour.

[Codo]

Yes pass is wrong, but we are not the last to speak, so I thought the possibilities are:

5 HEart: I don´t want to defend
X: I want to defend
pass: I am not sure what to do.

So after pass pd will have the final descission and imho he is much better placed to do so.