[Kalvan14]

Scoring: IMP

1C - 1S - 2H - ?

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Let's start from here. There will be more later.

[Miron]

A difficult one.
I am afraid to bid spades, because they could recognize their slam possibilities thanks to spades void(s), for our own offence/defence i need to know how the diamonds are. May be I'll bid 3♦ and bid spades later (if ever). I cut my partner from the bidding (he is missing of some information), but i don't see a better solution.
If I play Snapdragon double (3-card fit and 5+cards in the last suit) I would use it (imho it's obviously the best bid)

[Free]

I don't like my ♦s enough to bid them (fit showing), so I'll just splinter in ♣...

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

you have to decide, if the diamonds are good
enough to warrant a 3D / 4D fit bid, if not just
bid 4S.

Also important: Decide now, what you will do if
5H comes back, I will bid 5S, but Pass over
anything higher.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[joker_gib]

P_Marlowe, on Feb 3 2006, 12:19 PM, said:

Hi,

you have to decide, if the diamonds are good
enough to warrant a 3D / 4D fit bid, if not just
bid 4S.

Also important: Decide now, what you will do if
5H comes back, I will bid 5S, but Pass over
anything higher.

With kind regards
Marlowe

I agree !

♦ are not good enough to bid 4♦ and reveal the distribution to opps so I will go with 4♠.

What to do if it's back with 5♥ is another problem but I will also try 5♠ even if it can push them to 6♥

What do I do on 6♥ ? Euh ???

Alain

[benlessard]

My thinking



partner suit is a bit lousy so either hes hefty on pts or shapes or hes got a 6s (unlikely) or hes got clubs well placed.


It very unlikely (almost impossible) we buy the hand at 4s. We must plan a 5 or 6 level scenario.

Defending 6h by underleading a spades might work.

6C might face a bad break esp since they wont play me for club lenght (if i dont splinter).

plan 1 is to bid 5s and if they bid 6H ill lead diamond


plan 2 is
Its would be somewhat nice to know if the opp have a s void.

ill bid a simple 2s if they drive to slam showing a s void ill bid 6S. If not ill underlead my spades against 6H and ill let them play 6C

white against red you have to take the push to 6s if they bid 6 and know waht there doing.


Against weak players i might try a 3s followed by a 4s bid. You never know

[MickyB]

I may be wrong, but I think the auction is uncontested - the battle is with our partner!

[han]

I also think that it has gone 1C-1S-2H, all by us. If I have a natural GF 3D available then I'd bid it. If 3D is artificial then I'd bid 2S, forcing and showing 5+ spades.

[luis]

5♣ exclusion RKCB on weekdays, 5♥ exclusion RKCB on weekends.
There is a 0% chance to buy it in 4♠ they may have a slam or we may have a slam, the exclusion RKCB bid will help me find a slam if we have one and will make it very hard to bid a slam if they have one.
The choice between the honest 5♣ and the devilish 5♥ will depend to me on the state of the match, the opponents and atmospheric pressure.

Luis

[almightygozar]

Assuming this is an uncontested auction (right?), I will simply bid where I live: 3♦. I'll bid spades over 3♥ or 3NT, and I'll commit seppuku* over 4♣ (but probably try 4♠ before doing so). I smell a double in our future...

I've got a suspicion I should just focus on the spades, but I keep picturing normal opening hands from partner like x AQxx Kxx AQJxx that belong in diamonds.


(*Not at the table--I don't want my team docked the 3 IMPs.)

[Kalvan14]

almightygozar, on Feb 3 2006, 07:51 PM, said:

Assuming this is an uncontested auction (right?), I will simply bid where I live: 3♦. I'll bid spades over 3♥ or 3NT, and I'll commit seppuku* over 4♣ (but probably try 4♠ before doing so). I smell a double in our future...

I've got a suspicion I should just focus on the spades, but I keep picturing normal opening hands from partner like x AQxx Kxx AQJxx that belong in diamonds.


(*Not at the table--I don't want my team docked the 3 IMPs.)

It is an uncontested auction, otherwise the oppos bid would be shown in brackets.
3♦ appears to be the only bid: pard finds 3♥

[awm]

I'd rebid 2♠ in an uncontested auction. This is forcing, describes my hand, and gives partner the maximum amount of room to continue bidding. If partner's next call is 2NT I can try looking for the diamond fit. I see no reason to cramp the auction with a 3♦ call.

[000002]

i noticed VUL is favorable to me,that means unfavorable to us now----u had to decide a sacrifice or not,especially on 5 level----

I bid 4♣ to show shorten if it is.

i don't want to bid 4♦ because my hand need ♦+♥control only,not ♦ honor card.I expect my pd's hand is QJxxx Axx x Axxx,a perfect slam.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

asuming the auction is uncontested,
3D, artificial (fourth suit forcing /
mark time bid, what ever you call it).

You have no real chance to introduce
diamonds, but maybe you get the info,
that partner holds a 3 card spade suit.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Kalvan14]

Let me re-post the bidding, since there still is some confusion. Dealer N:

1♣-(P)-1♠-(P)-2♥-(P)-3♦-(P)-3♥-(P)-?

Some additional clarifications:
- 2♠ would not have been 100% forcing
- 3♦ is nominally a 4th Suit Forcing (but can well be with diamonds, as in this case)
- 3♥ is 100% 6-5 in the round suits.

What do you bid?

[temp3600]

Kalvan14, on Feb 5 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

Let me re-post the bidding, since there still is some confusion. Dealer N:

1♣-(P)-1♠-(P)-2♥-(P)-3♦-(P)-3♥-(P)-?

Some additional clarifications:
- 2♠ would not have been 100% forcing
- 3♦ is nominally a 4th Suit Forcing (but can well be with diamonds, as in this case)
- 3♥ is 100% 6-5 in the round suits.

What do you bid?

After this start, 3S. Partner now has 3NT, 4C, 4H and 4S to tell what his two yet undescribed cards are. It makes sense for him to bid 3NT and 4S not only with two cards in diamonds and spades respectively, but also with a stiff honor.

Say partner has 1. x - AKJ9x - x - AKJ9xx, 2. _ - AKJ9x - xx - AKJ9xx. What game do you prefer ?

[000002]

i am sorry the bidding is uncontested.
3nt i advise.

[P_Marlowe]

Kalvan14, on Feb 5 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

Let me re-post the bidding, since there still is some confusion. Dealer N:

1♣-(P)-1♠-(P)-2♥-(P)-3♦-(P)-3♥-(P)-?

Some additional clarifications:
- 2♠ would not have been 100% forcing
- 3♦ is nominally a 4th Suit Forcing (but can well be with diamonds, as in this case)
- 3♥ is 100% 6-5 in the round suits.

What do you bid?

4S, I have done enough,
and I try to get out.

With regards
Marlowe