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More disgusting Minor Stayman JUST LET ME PLAY 3NT
#1
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Posted 2026-April-27, 06:01
If we have to have Minor Stayman, please just reprogram them to drop a 3NT rebid. This is repulsive.
#2
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Posted 2026-April-27, 14:39
I'm not against Responder with the right hand and vulnerability pulling 3NT to a minor, slam invitational... but this is absurd, like so many situations where GiB is incapable of following up an already quirky convention.
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Posted 2026-April-28, 22:13
I think the showing of the singleton or void is automated. That is, the robot makes the bid without considering what the best contract is. As a result, you should anticipate the robot showing a singleton or void after a minor suit Stayman sequence. Getting to 3NT is probably difficult to get to after Minor Suit Stayman with a robot. Most humans will pass your 3NT bid with given hand. Had you shown a minor suit, some humans might explore slam with the given hands.
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Posted Yesterday, 04:39
Thank you for your note. I, too, hope that Minor Staymen is adjusted sometime in the future.
To me, Minor Stayman only makes sense if responder has a very weak hand and 6+ cards. In other words, any game, especially a NT game, is unlikely.
The robot does not play that way, but will respond with Minor Stayman with 5 cards and a stronger hand - forcing a 3-level response by 1NT opener. In such situations, I'd rather try a 3NT game rather than 3 of a minor. So, if the robot forces a minor auction by rebidding the minor with that kind of a hand, I concede all tricks and go on to the next board even if I could make the minor auction. I'd much rather partner (in F2F games) or the robot would pass 1 NT openings with a weak hand in such a situation. (Sometimes, just for fun, I keep bidding NT just to see what the robot will do - 7NT is universal!) Sure, I'll miss scoring an occasional minor auction in F2F games with that approach, but in my experience in F2F games, I get many more master points that way. And, over many boards, that is the bottom line in any approach in duplicate, not whether an individual hand is made (unless the cards and bidding suggest a different line of attack). Best regards.
Mike
To me, Minor Stayman only makes sense if responder has a very weak hand and 6+ cards. In other words, any game, especially a NT game, is unlikely.
The robot does not play that way, but will respond with Minor Stayman with 5 cards and a stronger hand - forcing a 3-level response by 1NT opener. In such situations, I'd rather try a 3NT game rather than 3 of a minor. So, if the robot forces a minor auction by rebidding the minor with that kind of a hand, I concede all tricks and go on to the next board even if I could make the minor auction. I'd much rather partner (in F2F games) or the robot would pass 1 NT openings with a weak hand in such a situation. (Sometimes, just for fun, I keep bidding NT just to see what the robot will do - 7NT is universal!) Sure, I'll miss scoring an occasional minor auction in F2F games with that approach, but in my experience in F2F games, I get many more master points that way. And, over many boards, that is the bottom line in any approach in duplicate, not whether an individual hand is made (unless the cards and bidding suggest a different line of attack). Best regards.
Mike
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