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Bid to 2 level quickly with strong balanced hands

#1 User is offline   yunling 

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Posted Yesterday, 23:08

In the past few years mexican 2D(or 2C)has become more and more popular among top players, if my observation is right.
I used to be against it, but a few analysis shows that 2NT opening is a big winner versus natural 1 minor, and probably also a winner versus precision 1C.
So now I wonder if bid to 2 level quickly with a strong balanced hand is theoratically very sound?
It just prevents opponents from making a cheap overcall which matters much more than staying in 1NT or slam auction.
This also applies to meckwell 1C-2D 8-10 balanced sequence which now I believe is better than putting 8-10 balanced into 1D or 1H——I lost in a few occasions when fourth seat was able to overcall.
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Posted Today, 05:16

View Postyunling, on 2026-March-14, 23:08, said:

In the past few years mexican 2D(or 2C)has become more and more popular among top players, if my observation is right.

2 has never been popular among top players, and has become even less popular in recent years IMHO. On the other hand, Multi 2 has become very popular.

View Postyunling, on 2026-March-14, 23:08, said:

I used to be against it, but a few analysis shows that 2NT opening is a big winner versus natural 1 minor, and probably also a winner versus precision 1C.

What analysis is this that show 2NT is a big winner versus starting lower? A common description of a 2NT opener is slam killer, the implication being that starting the auction at the 2NT level doesn't leave room to explore for slam at a lower level.
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Posted Today, 05:42

Possibly someone taking a contrarian position for discussion sake?

A Weak NTer in Shenzhen also feels like a bit of an anomaly.
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Posted Today, 06:40

My impression is that putting strong balanced in 1 is a significant winner.

I think the reason some players prefer an artificial 2 or 2 showing 18-19 bal is that this hand type can have a hard time in standard after interference. There's significant extras after the opening, but no great suit to bid. Splitting it out of the opening relieves takeout doubles in competition and permits more shape-based bidding. In return, you lose a 2-level opening bid for other uses and you can no longer resolve the big balanced hand at the 1-level, which plenty of other systems can.
Precision faces other tradeoffs as the 17-19 balanced range is the 'default' responder assumes in competition. There's not much pressure to act with that hand type. I don't think this combination is a good idea. You could split out e.g. 20-21, but I prefer not to.

Using 1-2 to show a minimum positive balanced hand is a fine idea, though in general the positive system to a strong 1 won't have a large impact on your score.
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