[harikannan]

At MPs, white vs red, you hold:

Kx, AQ8x, QJT85, 86 and open 1D, which is overcalled 1S by your LHO and passed around to you.

Would you bid again here? If yes, what?
Is double a consideration here? If yes, what would you do if partner bids 2C?

Thanks in advance.

[mike777]

Double
Pass 2C

[jillybean]

I'm not excited holding this 12 count, my SK is dead
I think partner will expect more if I X, I'm going to pass.

I would have opened 1nt (10-13/12-14) , even more reason to pass.

[mikeh]

Easy pass

A primary reason for reopening with minimal values is the prospect of finding partner with a penalty double. Negative doubles mean that partner may be passing with a good hand and length/strength in their suit.

The better your holding in the overcalled suit, the less likely it is that partner has a penalty pass hand. Kx of spades suggests that it is less likely that partner has a penalty pass holding than would, say, x or xx.

Plus…he didn’t negative double so we aren’t realistically looking for a heart fit. And he didn’t raise diamonds. And he didn’t bid notrump. So where are we going with our reopening double?

Now, if LHO is prone to overcalling on Qxxxx then the odds swing back….but I’d still pass. I think it more likely that LHO has a strong overcall, and was close to doubling then bidding spades.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

#1 if you make the reopening X, you have to pass 2C
#2 you have to make the the reopening X with shortage in their suit, to protect p, in case he has
a penalty X and has made a trap pass, given the King in their suit, the likelyhood of a trap pass
decreased, i.e. p is most likely broke, but know your customers
I would not fault a X, I think it is ok.

[AL78]

It is a curious one, we have a 12 count, LHO can manage a simple overcall which limits their hand, partner can't find a response and neither can RHO. Where are the HCP? I guess LHO is a stonking max for the overcall and the remaining HCP are split roughly evenly between partner and RHO.

[Cyberyeti]

AL78, on 2025-September-11, 07:41, said:

It is a curious one, we have a 12 count, LHO can manage a simple overcall which limits their hand, partner can't find a response and neither can RHO. Where are the HCP? I guess LHO is a stonking max for the overcall and the remaining HCP are split roughly evenly between partner and RHO.

You need to know your punter, if they're prone to overcalling on A10xxx and a king, partner can have the stonking penalty pass

[bluenikki]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-September-11, 09:43, said:

You need to know your punter, if they're prone to overcalling on A10xxx and a king, partner can have the stonking penalty pass

Or advancer can have a stonker 1=4=4=4.

[Cyberyeti]

bluenikki, on 2025-September-11, 17:46, said:

Or advancer can have a stonker 1=4=4=4.

Really, they can't have a HUGE hand unless partner's overcalls are always bad, they would investigate game with 13. This is why you need to know your overcaller to assess the odds, I can have a 19 count, I won't have less than 11, other people can have a 6 count.

[Huibertus]

harikannan, on 2025-September-09, 22:19, said:

At MPs, white vs red, you hold:

Kx, AQ8x, QJT85, 86 and open 1D, which is overcalled 1S by your LHO and passed around to you.

Would you bid again here? If yes, what?
Is double a consideration here? If yes, what would you do if partner bids 2C?

Thanks in advance.

Double
Pass 2♣

Almost mandatory if you don't play penalty doubles over 1♠ you do NOT have a bad hand for it.

[blackshoe]

Pass.

[harikannan]

Thanks to everyone. At IMPs, I would surely pass. At MPs, how often do we find a vulnerable poor suit overcall? Will we push them into a makeable game or put partner in a spot with our double? Or will we go 2 down doubled? Too much for me. I guess I won't dare to risk a reopening bid.