[vedry]

Hand

How to make robot to bid slam?

I try with 5 ♥ (like super accept), but no avail?

[smerriman]

If you just bid 4♥ it'll continue with a 4♠ cuebid after which you can take over.. it's not going to understand when you make unexpected responses. Though amusingly, it does treat 4N over 4♦ as RKCB for hearts.

[Edit - ha, didn't even notice this wasn't close to a 1nt opener. Better point made below..]

[Huibertus]

The bot already decided it is not going to go to slam against a 15-17 NT opening Texas specifically denies interest, with slam interest it bids 2♦ first.

Had you opened 1♥ planning to rebid 2NT (Your hand is way too strong for 1NT, not just because you have 18HCP but also because of a 5 card and also because of many aces) you probably would have gotten to slam.

[johnu]

Huibertus, on 2025-June-03, 01:03, said:

The bot already decided it is not going to go to slam against a 15-17 NT opening Texas specifically denies interest, with slam interest it bids

In normal expertish bidding, responder will jump to the 4 level for a Texas transfer, and then follow up with a 4NT RKC Blackwood bid. If you make a simple Jacoby transfer at the 2 level and then jump to 4NT that is treated as an invitational NT bid with the major already shown by transfer.

Maybe smerriman knows if North was going to sign off by passing or bid 4NT after making the Texas transfer.

[johnu]

vedry, on 2025-June-03, 00:02, said:

How to make robot to bid slam?

How are you planning to make slam opposite a typical 10 total point hand (includes distribution), even with your oversized 1NT opener?

[smerriman]

johnu, on 2025-June-03, 12:59, said:

Maybe smerriman knows if North was going to sign off by passing or bid 4NT after making the Texas transfer.

I said above it will continue 4♠.

[thepossum]

vedry, on 2025-June-03, 00:02, said:

Hand

How to make robot to bid slam?

I try with 5 ♥ (like super accept), but no avail?

Dare I suggest either
1 - don't downgrade that hand. Bid 2NT - sorry you are NV against V so is a reasonable thing
2 - bit 1 heart

EDIT. I tested these options out in Bidding table. 2NT you end up in 7 hearts, 1H you end in 6 hearts
I think another bidding engine ended in 6NT, not sure about 7NT

[Huibertus]

johnu, on 2025-June-03, 12:59, said:

In normal expertish bidding, responder will jump to the 4 level for a Texas transfer, and then follow up with a 4NT RKC Blackwood bid. If you make a simple Jacoby transfer at the 2 level and then jump to 4NT that is treated as an invitational NT bid with the major already shown by transfer.

Maybe smerriman knows if North was going to sign off by passing or bid 4NT after making the Texas transfer.

We are not talking about "expertish" bidding, we're discussing the agreement random humans have when they play with a bot.

Here they are; https://www.bridgeba...ystem_notes.php

Also, we're not discussing slam forcing or close to slam forcing responses, we're discussing how to bid hands INVITATIONAL to slam, like the hand shared by OP here.

From the system I copied here and which IS the system you play when partner is a bot you can work out;

-Jacoby transfers followed up by bidding 4 of the Major (or splinters) show slam INTEREST.
-That means if you bid Texas, you either do NOT have any interest in slam, or you are bordering on a slam FORCE (so not an invite) that is going to check for controls/keycards next.
-Texas followed by 4NT explicitly is RKCB whether you like the agreement or not, partner is NOT allowed to pass.
-If you want to show slam interest with a Major in a balanced hand you HAVE to use a Jacoby transfer and follow up with 4NT which then is non-forcing. If you want to show a hand with a major and offer partner a choice between 6NT and 6 Major you have to use Jacoby and follow up with 5NT, which is forcing, pick a slam.

[smerriman]

Huibertus, on 2025-June-09, 04:43, said:

We are not talking about "expertish" bidding, we're discussing the agreement random humans have when they play with a bot.

Also, we're not discussing slam forcing or close to slam forcing responses, we're discussing how to bid hands INVITATIONAL to slam, like the hand shared by OP here.

No, we are discussing your comment that "the robot has already decided it is not going to slam", which is plain false.

(And GIB precisely plays the 'normal expertish bidding' that johnu mentioned - your own post confirms that - so I'm not even sure what you're disagreeing with..)