[Cyberyeti]

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:

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As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

[mw64ahw]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 12:52, said:

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:

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As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

I've got 25 points and a stopper so will bid 3N, but someone be told me I need 2 stoppers so will X, but the preempter is going down so will Pass. The musing of a N/B😁

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2025-March-03, 13:04, said:

I've got 25 points and a stopper so will bid 3N, but someone be told me I need 2 stoppers so will X, but the preempter is going down so will Pass. The musing of a N/B😁

You're PARTNERING the preempter not over it

[mw64ahw]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 13:08, said:

You're PARTNERING the preempter not over it

Doh - 5N then or 4N if the NB doesn't know what 5N means looking to correct to 6/7N

[jdiana]

This does seem pretty straightforward, even for me. Even N/B players usually have some kind of ace- or keycard-asking bid. Assuming 4NT would be either RKC or old-fashioned Blackwood, I'd bid it, looking for the grand. If I wasn't confident about bidding 4NT, I'd just bid 6NT. Even if I can't follow up with a queen ask, if we have the ♠A, I'm bidding 7NT. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)

[Cyberyeti]

jdiana, on 2025-March-03, 14:24, said:

This does seem pretty straightforward, even for me. Even N/B players usually have some kind of ace- or keycard-asking bid. Assuming 4NT would be either RKC or old-fashioned Blackwood, I'd bid it, looking for the grand. If I wasn't confident about bidding 4NT, I'd just bid 6NT. Even if I can't follow up with a queen ask, if we have the ♠A, I'm bidding 7NT. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)

This was what I thought, second seat preempt should be fairly sound, we bid 3♠-4N-5♦(1/4)-5♥(Q?)-6♠(yes)-7N

Partner had AQJxxxx, J, random 3-2 for 14 top tricks, the traveller showed 7 grands, 5 small slams

[mw64ahw]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 14:34, said:

This was what I thought, second seat preempt should be fairly sound, we bid 3♠-4N-5♦(1/4)-5♥(Q?)-6♠(yes)-7N

Partner had AQJxxxx, J, random 3-2 for 14 top tricks, the traveller showed 7 grands, 5 small slams

No need to ask for the Q. I'd bid 7N without it.

[jillybean]

jdiana, on 2025-March-03, 14:24, said:

. (I'm assuming, since we're N/B players, that our preempts are reasonably sound.)

I would not be so sure.

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2025-March-03, 17:37, said:

No need to ask for the Q. I'd bid 7N without it.

I knew I could claim at trick 1 if he had it

[bluenikki]

Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 12:52, said:

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:

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As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?

[mw64ahw]

bluenikki, on 2025-March-04, 05:01, said:

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?

It matters for me as I count 6 tricks at equal vulnerability and the South hand limits where they can be

[Cyberyeti]

bluenikki, on 2025-March-04, 05:01, said:

Doesn't vulnerability matter a lot?

It would 1st or 3rd, in 2nd seat with a weak 2/multi available, I would expect the preempt to be sound

[thepossum]

 Cyberyeti, on 2025-March-03, 12:52, said:

Played a teams event at the weekend, what should have been the most routine board of the day was this one:

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As this is the N/B forum, ask yourself how you would handle this if you wre a novice

To make it simple just 4NT Blackwood and decide on 6 or 7 something. Always the chance of missing Ace and Queen but I hope not

[mikl_plkcc]

Why do people bid NT slam here given the huge ♠ fit? I would just Blackwood and decide to bid 6♠ or 7♠ afterwards.

[mw64ahw]

mikl_plkcc, on 2025-March-05, 11:15, said:

Why do people bid NT slam here given the huge ♠ fit? I would just Blackwood and decide to bid 6♠ or 7♠ afterwards.

Just count the tricks taking 7♠, 3♥, 2♦ & 1♣

[P_Marlowe]

mikl_plkcc, on 2025-March-05, 11:15, said:

Why do people bid NT slam here given the huge ♠ fit? I would just Blackwood and decide to bid 6♠ or 7♠ afterwards.

The short trump hand, has no ruffing potential, you have double stoppers in the side suit.
Playing trumps risks going down due to bad trump breaks and potential ruffs, if someone happens
to have a void. Due to this playing NT is better than playing trumps.

[jillybean]

mikl_plkcc, on 2025-March-05, 11:15, said:

Why do people bid NT slam here given the huge ♠ fit? I would just Blackwood and decide to bid 6♠ or 7♠ afterwards.

Hand Hog

[smerriman]

Losing 17 IMPs when someone ruffs at trick 1 and you have 13 top tricks may be rare, but an unnecessary risk regardless.