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Posted 2025-January-01, 20:22


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Posted 2025-January-02, 02:40

3 - which I play as a mixed raise. I am in the upper range, but I don't hace a spade honour and my K is hard to evaluate. I really want to get across my four-card support.
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Posted 2025-January-02, 07:10

View Postpaulg, on 2025-January-02, 02:40, said:

3 - which I play as a mixed raise. I am in the upper range, but I don't hace a spade honour and my K is hard to evaluate. I really want to get across my four-card support.

Nice. Tough choice between this and 2 though IMO.

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Posted 2025-January-02, 07:14

2 for me, this shows the values more accurately than a mixed raise, and you never know when 2 will buy the contract. If opponents bid 3x I can compete to 3 later, and I don’t really want to encourage partner to sacrifice against 4.
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Posted 2025-January-02, 08:57

Thanks, some number of diamonds is clear here.

Does changing the vulnerability to V vs. NV change anything?
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Posted 2025-January-02, 09:57

This is probably a silly question, but why diamonds and not hearts?
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Posted 2025-January-02, 10:18

View Postmycroft, on 2025-January-02, 09:57, said:

This is probably a silly question, but why diamonds and not hearts?

It’s a level lower, and removes any doubt as to what I’m showing/asking.
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Posted Yesterday, 02:37

View Postmycroft, on 2025-January-02, 09:57, said:

This is probably a silly question, but why diamonds and not hearts?

It's not a silly question.

Principally, none of us really believe that East has guaranteed a heart suit: perhaps it is a guarantee for an intermediate, but at higher levels there are hands that where you have to double as you don't really have a good choice and have too many points to pass - think a 3334 hand, ten points and no spade stop (you regularly see these hands in bidding competitions!).

So we like 2 to be natural as it can still be our best fit.

A couple of decades ago everyone played all these cue bids as spade raises because Andrew Robson and Mike Lawrence implied you could never have enough ways to raise partner. Nowadays the world seems to think that we only really need a couple of ways.
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