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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2005-June-20, 18:45

Scoring: IMP

(P) - ?


Tonight I held my first 10 card suit (in a non-goulashed deal). Computer generated hands you're playing in an event which is team scored. What's your plan in the bidding?

If you want to offer up some alternatives, I'll do my best to tell you what the other 3 seats at the table would do in the continuation.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 18:58

4s
The bidding may not be over yet B).

This will give my partner a chance to bid 4nt.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:01

2♣ and hope it isn't passed out
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:24

Mike - 4♠ will be passed out. If you are playing Namyats, would you choose the stronger 4♠ preempt or the weaker?

Luke Warm - Laugh. Partner won't pass you out. It will go 3♥ on your left and 2 passes to you. Partner's pass is forcing (so you shouldn't pass that either B) ). I'm also not sure that 2♣ would be allowed in England on this hand if meant to show a strong hand.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:30

Echognome, on Jun 20 2005, 08:24 PM, said:

Mike - 4♠ will be passed out. If you are playing Namyats, would you choose the stronger 4♠ preempt or the weaker?

I would choose the version that Vul vs NOT shows solid spades and no outside values.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:43

mike777, on Jun 21 2005, 02:30 AM, said:

Echognome, on Jun 20 2005, 08:24 PM, said:

Mike - 4♠ will be passed out.  If you are playing Namyats, would you choose the stronger 4♠ preempt or the weaker?

I would choose the version that Vul vs NOT shows solid spades and no outside values.

That's the one I chose! However, that's 4♦ in our system. So, it continues:

(p) - 4♦ - (4♥) - 4♠
(p) - ?

Any move over p's free bid?
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:53

no, partner could have bid 4nt or jump to 5s or bid 6s. I guess he wants to play the hand.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:53

pass...the "free" bid doesnt show anything, we are already forced to 4S. He is just saying it would be better to be played from his side.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 19:58

Start with Namyats and freely continue with 5S. If pard makes any kind encoraging noise like the example auction I bid 4N and lament the fact I'm playing rkcb.

Another idea is to open the hand with 4N if that's ace asking.
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Posted 2005-June-20, 20:25

Echognome, on Jun 20 2005, 08:24 PM, said:

It will go 3♥ on your left and 2 passes to you. Partner's pass is forcing (so you shouldn't pass that either B) ). I'm also not sure that 2♣ would be allowed in England on this hand if meant to show a strong hand.

then 4S...
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Posted 2005-June-21, 03:46

luke warm, on Jun 21 2005, 02:01 AM, said:

2♣ and hope it isn't passed out

If 2♣ is passed out then the opps have a combined 30 count, I think you should be perfectly happy if it is passed out ;)

I'm opening 4♦ then shutting up.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 04:13

Opposite unpassed pard, I open this a Namyats.

If we do not play namyats, I'll open 1S, unlikely to be passed out.


If pard is PASSED HAND, then I open 4S.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 04:52

If you play the aweful convention that 4NT is ace-asking - do it! ;)

I open this 1♠...
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Posted 2005-June-21, 05:52

Free, on Jun 21 2005, 01:52 PM, said:

If you play the aweful convention that 4NT is ace-asking - do it!  ;)

I open this 1♠...

1Sp for me too. If there is one suit with which you don't want to rush the bidding, it is the Boss Suit.

I remember a remark by a Viewgraph comentator, something like "It took me 20 years to learn not to open 4Sp." :)

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Posted 2005-June-21, 06:07

MickyB, on Jun 21 2005, 04:46 AM, said:

luke warm, on Jun 21 2005, 02:01 AM, said:

2♣ and hope it isn't passed out

If 2♣ is passed out then the opps have a combined 30 count, I think you should be perfectly happy if it is passed out ;)

I'm opening 4♦ then shutting up.

then 4s will be good, eh?
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Posted 2005-June-21, 06:29

4♦ for me then pass 4♠.

2♣ is crazy even if it is intended of a psyche. I'd prefer 1NT or something.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 06:50

with my reg p we open this 2♣ showing 9+ tricks in ♠, relays from there

with a pickup i open 1♠
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Posted 2005-June-21, 06:55

4♠. If this isn't a red-vs-white 4♠ opening I don't know what is.
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Posted 2005-June-21, 06:56

Gerben42, on Jun 21 2005, 07:29 AM, said:

4♦ for me then pass 4♠.

2♣ is crazy even if it is intended of a psyche. I'd prefer 1NT or something.

i only said 2c because of another thread.. on this hand i'd open 4d if available, if not i'd open 1s
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Posted 2005-June-21, 08:06

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