[oldoc]

There are 4000 reported players. You play 4 hands with results that would be considered average in any duplicate session yet your BBO rank is 51,000. Do you have in incognito table with 51,000 players, or what?

[smerriman]

If you're talking about "Just Play Bridge", then you're likely reading the first number from the "players online" figure. The other players are not online right then; they got their score earlier in the day.

[oldoc]

smerriman, on 2021-December-11, 13:05, said:

If you're talking about "Just Play Bridge", then you're likely reading the first number from the "players online" figure. The other players are not online right then; they got their score earlier in the day.

NO, I am not talking about "just play bridge." I am referring to "bridge 4."

[smerriman]

That works the same way.

[oldoc]

smerriman, on 2021-December-12, 12:56, said:

That works the same way.

Then you are also saying that 55,000 individuals played the exact same hands on that same day and 51,000 of them scored better than an average result???? PREPOSTEROUS!

[smerriman]

No, I didn't say that at all. The hands are different for everyone. Yes, that means it's a luck of the draw thing whether you get hands that can generate high scores, but that's why people play duplicate games elsewhere on BBO instead.

[oldoc]

smerriman, on 2021-December-14, 13:06, said:

No, I didn't say that at all. The hands are different for everyone. Yes, that means it's a luck of the draw thing whether you get hands that can generate high scores, but that's why people play duplicate games elsewhere on BBO instead.

The law of averages does not apply in BBO? I am certain that it does.

[smerriman]

oldoc, on 2021-December-14, 13:22, said:

The law of averages does not apply in BBO? I am certain that it does.

I'm not sure what you mean. If you get dealt 4 hands where you can't make any games, even if you play them 100% perfectly for the optimal number of tricks, you will still be extremely low on the leaderboard.

All of the players at the top of the leaderboard would have been dealt 4 hands where all have makeable games/slams. If you play enough times, then by the law of averages, yes, you will get the opportunity to get a better score too.

If you want to see how many people are on the leaderboard, try bidding 7NTxx on each hand and concede 13 tricks.

[oldoc]

smerriman, on 2021-December-14, 13:48, said:

I'm not sure what you mean. If you get dealt 4 hands where you can't make any games, even if you play them 100% perfectly for the optimal number of tricks, you will still be extremely low on the leaderboard.

All of the players at the top of the leaderboard would have been dealt 4 hands where all have makeable games/slams. If you play enough times, then by the law of averages, yes, you will get the opportunity to get a better score too.

If you want to see how many people are on the leaderboard, try bidding 7NTxx on each hand and concede 13 tricks.

Done that....70,000+.

[smerriman]

Right - so it's easily possible that a poor set of hands would rank at 50k even if played optimally.

[oldoc]

smerriman, on 2021-December-14, 15:26, said:

Right - so it's easily possible that a poor set of hands would rank at 50k even if played optimally.

Are you saying that each player is given a different set of 4 hands......that my four hands are different from every other player on line? Don't think so.

[mycroft]

Absolutely - that's exactly how it works. Play it twice back to back - you'll see it in action. The link smerriman posted in #4 makes that clear.