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#1 User is offline   thomas c 

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Posted 2019-December-27, 11:19

https://tinyurl.com/rvrgf4u

i do love playing the bots. i get more bad boards from "stupid bot bids" than from my own stupid bids. i thought this one was amusing.
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Posted 2019-December-27, 11:36

The only "stupid bids" I see are your spades rebid and perhaps East's final pass - am I missing something?
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Posted 2019-December-27, 14:26

View Postpescetom, on 2019-December-27, 11:36, said:

The only "stupid bids" I see are your spades rebid and perhaps East's final pass - am I missing something?

Seats are always swapped for human-declares, so North is the robot.

Basic GIB's "book bid" is to pass 2. 2 does seem stupid, but I can understand why it did it; there will be enough cases where it does work out better than passing to give it a chance of coming out top in a sim.
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Posted 2019-December-27, 15:30

View Postpescetom, on 2019-December-27, 11:36, said:

The only "stupid bids" I see are your spades rebid and perhaps East's final pass - am I missing something?

thanx buddy. i always appreciate nice helpful comments. i didnt know the ids were switched. sorry for confusing u.
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Posted 2019-December-27, 18:26


Thomas c' i do love playing the bots. i get more bad boards from "stupid bot bids" than from my own stupid bids. i thought this one was amusing'
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Thank you, Thomas C. Interesting bidding problem, especially for the North bot.

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Posted 2019-December-27, 21:03

Normally it is supposed to bid 4cd spades before 5 cd minor when < GF, but it needs a higher priority rule to bid 1nt in preference to 1S when holding weak 4-6+

Bidding 1S is a mistake many humans commit as well.

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Posted 2019-December-27, 21:26

I think the north bot and east bot are in cahoots on this hand. It's a setup designed to make life miserable for us poor humans
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Posted 2019-December-27, 21:44

View PostStephen Tu, on 2019-December-27, 21:03, said:

Normally it is supposed to bid 4cd spades before 5 cd minor when < GF, but it needs a higher priority rule to bid 1nt in preference to 1S when holding weak 4-6+

Bidding 1S is a mistake many humans commit as well.


Yes, I agree. The North hand is awkward in SAYC or Acol, not just 2/1. In any partnership it is vitally important for both players to consider their rebids before actually pulling a card from the bidding box.

1 looks automatic but it shouldn't be.
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Posted 2019-December-28, 07:59

View Postsmerriman, on 2019-December-27, 14:26, said:

Seats are always swapped for human-declares, so North is the robot.

Thanks, and sorry to thomas c for the confusion.
I do wish BBO would do something to make it clear in the graphics that seats have been swapped.
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