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1N - (x)* - xx** - (pass)
2♣ - (pass) - ?
xxx
QJT
Qxxx
Axx
1N is 14-16
x shows either one minor or both majors
xx is values
Now what?
Quickie poll Action after 2C
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Posted 2017-March-31, 10:30
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Posted 2017-March-31, 11:16
Pass. Sounds like partner has a 13-count with six clubs.
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Posted 2017-March-31, 12:46
Pass. Patrner seems to have an offshape and potentially subminimal opening. I have a flat 9 with slow tricks if we count 6 running clubs, 9 tricks are far away. Not sure notrumpers will outscore us (120 vs. 110 or 130?), and I've already told my story. If they compete I can bid 3C.
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Posted 2017-March-31, 13:07
3♣ if PRE, else pass.
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Posted 2017-March-31, 21:07
Partner's bid probably shows a 5 card ♣ suit and is worried about some suit stoppers. With a pancake distribution, you're unlikely to provide short suit ruffs. So, it's prudent to pass now and see if they contest the auction further. If partner has a max and intervenor 9-10, it may be difficult for advancer to reopen the auction.
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Posted 2017-March-31, 22:47
Hmmm, at MP do I not want to play this in NT?
I have a funny feeling partner misexplained my redouble...
I have a funny feeling partner misexplained my redouble...
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Posted 2017-March-31, 23:23
This auction does not make sense to meIf redouble showed values and pd did not pass my redouble, it means he misunderstood my redouble. I do not need an UI to figure this, assuming that I am playing with someone sane.
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Posted 2017-March-31, 23:59
I will assume partner has psyched.
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Posted 2017-April-01, 00:57
Phil, on 2017-March-31, 10:30, said:
Matchpoints
1N - (x)* - xx** - (pass)
2♣ - (pass) - ?
xxx
QJT
Qxxx
Axx
1N is 14-16
x shows either one minor or both majors
xx is values
Now what?
Partner has removed the redouble. Alarm bells must be ringing. Best to pass and await developments(if any)
1N - (x)* - xx** - (pass)
2♣ - (pass) - ?
xxx
QJT
Qxxx
Axx
1N is 14-16
x shows either one minor or both majors
xx is values
Now what?
Partner has removed the redouble. Alarm bells must be ringing. Best to pass and await developments(if any)
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Posted 2017-April-01, 02:26
Vampyr, on 2017-March-31, 23:59, said:
I will assume partner has psyched.
Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?
Na, we are just on different page with pd about the meaning of redouble.
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"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2017-April-01, 04:23
If his profile says that he plays the Wriggling convention then his bid of 2C is automatic.He and you are on different wavelengths.But if your partner knows the meaning of your xx then he is expressly telling you that 2C is a far better contract with 5/6 carder club suit.So PASS is the bid with this hand.And if it turns out that your wavelengths are different then pass and hope for the best and hope the opponents will help you by competing further.
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Posted 2017-April-01, 05:18
The redouble was for business. Partner really should have passed and the doubler would have been
in a real fix. Taking evasive action like this does nothing to boost partnership confidence(!)
in a real fix. Taking evasive action like this does nothing to boost partnership confidence(!)
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Posted 2017-April-01, 08:15
I agree that partner forgot the agreement, so any action is a guess.
If partner is playing the wriggling convention - pass. If partner thought the XX was SOS and is bidding up the line looking for an eight card fit, then pass might be the least dangerous guess. If partner has a minimum, unbalanced 1 NT and is worried about stoppers; you should be, too. Pass. If partner thought the bid was forward-going, it appears that he was the only one.
If partner is playing the wriggling convention - pass. If partner thought the XX was SOS and is bidding up the line looking for an eight card fit, then pass might be the least dangerous guess. If partner has a minimum, unbalanced 1 NT and is worried about stoppers; you should be, too. Pass. If partner thought the bid was forward-going, it appears that he was the only one.
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MrAce, on 2017-March-31, 23:23, said:
This auction does not make sense to meIf redouble showed values and pd did not pass my redouble, it means he misunderstood my redouble. I do not need an UI to figure this, assuming that I am playing with someone sane.
Disagree - Gordon's explanation (6 clubs, minimum) makes perfect sense. It would be wrong to require this hand to pass. Sure, it is possible we pass up a penalty this way, but ot seems more likely that it helps our constructive bidding.
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MrAce, on 2017-April-01, 02:26, said:
Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?
Na
Na
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Posted 2017-April-01, 19:17
MrAce, on 2017-April-01, 02:26, said:
Psyching at first seat? Using 1 NT?
Na, we are just on different page with pd about the meaning of redouble.
Na, we are just on different page with pd about the meaning of redouble.
OK, but with the UI it seems to be our only option.
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Posted 2017-April-01, 19:37
Vampyr, on 2017-April-01, 19:17, said:
OK, but with the UI it seems to be our only option.
Which UI?
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Posted 2017-April-01, 19:59
Well there was UI as some have surmised.
Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.
Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.
Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.
Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.
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Posted 2017-April-02, 07:48
Phil G,Sir,you acted correctly ignoring partners alerts.If you had acted on the basis of partners alerts it would have been an unfair action.Confusions about the gadgets can easily occur in an unestablished partnership and in events like BBO and others where there are no provisions of partnership convention card ,which is as we all know,compulsory ,in all events in various open events all over the world.The more the gadgets the more is the possibility of confusions arising in the heat of the game.Its all in the game and that is what makes bridge more interesting than an intellectual game like chess.
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Posted 2017-April-03, 21:41
Phil, on 2017-April-01, 19:59, said:
Well there was UI as some have surmised.
Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.
Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.
Partner did alert my xx as a transfer to 2C, even though that isn't our agreement.
Of course I passed. Partner is pulling the xx because he has a min. The only real LAs are pass and 3C.
So I was right!
Pd did not have a weird NT opening that decided to lift your value redouble, which has no max limit by the way.
I did not buy the arguments made by Arend or others about that.
I figured by experience that pd misunderstood my xx. And I did not come to this conclusion via UI and/or alert by pd.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."