[lycier]

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[ahydra]

It's all quite reasonable until 3S, but then it just turns into something resembling novice night at the local club. W starts the disaster with a very ambitious double of 3S, which surely should be for penalties but apparently doesn't show anything in particular. Despite holding good defence, East rescues him out of the -530-shaped frying pan into the -800-shaped fire, and pulling 4HX just seems crazy (when in a hole, etc).

I'd guess the starting point is looking at whether the definition of double of 3S is correct, and why West doesn't have the values stated on the description of double.

ahydra

[Stephen Tu]

I disagree that it's reasonable until 3S. Everything needs tighter definitions. Then it is less likely to think game is in the picture and needs to be taking action over 3S.

3♣ - This should probably deny 4 diamonds unless 6+ clubs (prefer responsive x with 4/5 in minors), and I think the range should be more like 10-13/10-14 TP, instead of 12+ unlimited. Then West can pass 3♣ sanely and not feel need to keep auction alive because it thinks game is possible. It probably should promise 6+ clubs not 5.

3♦ - probably should have a fifth diamond and club misfit.