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Vul overcall 2 respond to weak jump

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Posted 2005-April-13, 16:16

Scoring: XIMP

1CL - 2SP - p - ?


BIL tourney. Another vul overcall situation. I am responder now. I think long then pass. I was thinking: If p doesnt have a 1-level overcall he does not have much besides spades so we wont burn a vul game- but then again there is no need to preempt further. How would you bid and why?
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Posted 2005-April-13, 16:20

When V vs NV, Ximps, 10 s together and partner jumping to 2-level, I think it's an obligated 4 bid immediatly. If you're not sure, you can still invite, but pass is out of the question imo.
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Posted 2005-April-13, 16:25

4S. If we don't have a game, the opps would have something.
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Posted 2005-April-13, 16:29

How do I invite? 3 spades is just further preempt, right? I think 2NT would be natural with no agreement?
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Posted 2005-April-13, 17:36

I would just bid 3S. The hand is a lucky fitter...pard is 6331 with 3-3 in your 2-2s and also has the ace of hearts.
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Posted 2005-April-13, 18:00

plaur, on Apr 13 2005, 11:29 PM, said:

How do I invite? 3 spades is just further preempt, right? I think 2NT would be natural with no agreement?

3 is most known as invite, cuebid the opener's suit.

With my f2f partner I play transfer advances, where 3 is invite with fit...
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Posted 2005-April-13, 18:12

His hand is far too powerful to overcall 2 unless you have passed already. If he opens 1, you can find 4 easier, but in either case, a 4 call is fine from your hand.
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Posted 2005-April-13, 19:14

Vul vs not this isn't a great jump overcall. I know a lot of good pairs that play them intermediate at these colors.

If you accept that 2S is ok with this hand, you should also accept that KJT - 7th without the AH is OK.

I would only raise to 3. On 90 percent of the 2S overcalls 4 won't have a play and we could well have issues in 3.

My ODR isn't good, so the total tricks is probably off. Take away the minor quacks and give me a stiff and its 4S call.
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Posted 2005-April-14, 02:13

plaur, on Apr 13 2005, 10:29 PM, said:

How do I invite? 3 spades is just further preempt, right? I think 2NT would be natural with no agreement?

Over a wjo, I play the same as over a weak 2 opener (except for a cue).

2NT would be either Ogust or feature ask, whatever you use over an opener.
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I would bid 2NT to find out whether overcaller has a max (about 9-11 hcp, 7 losers or so, at these colors), or a dead minimum.
If he has a max hand, 4S should be a good bet at XIMPS.
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Posted 2005-April-14, 03:59

I agree wholeheartedly with the 2 overcall, you are at unfavorable. As for south: Looking at two top honors in you know that

* You have no spade losers
* You have a 10-card fit, which is huge
* Partner must have something good on the side or he has lost his mind at this vuln.

My bid: 2NT ask for something and bid 4 after that (with reg. pd 2NT asks for singleton).

P.S. I play intermediate at this colours but WJO was the agreement stated for this pair.
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Posted 2005-April-15, 19:41

1-2-p-3
p-3-p-4

Looks like the proper auction to me.

Bidding just 3 is also a good option, but we are vulnerable!.
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