[sakuragi]

bd 12

final score is 54:46 in favor for jec. this board costs 10. i must do something for you ...


it is bd 12

[eagles123]

it helps to know agreements, but with such prime cards maybe West can splinter rather than 2d?

[gwnn]

I don't think you should worry too much about problems coming from playing inv min in a pickup partnership. I mean you need some serious time to fix the problems with standard follow ups.

[Phil]

3S looks right from west and one more move after 3N looks right to me.

[helene_t]

In Lawrence's book, 3NT shows 15-17, and then W clearly has to move. I think this is standard 2/1 but maybe not so clear in a pick-up partnership.

Silly me, didn't realize it was not a gf auction.

[sakuragi]

exactly.
Many players just take 3nt/4M as a signoff, forgetting the descriptive front. why?

for "lets make another forcing bid" or similar, it seems like just deferring without adding value. what info would u expect to get further and does it help further with your call? why not leap to 6nt? (dont take me wrong, i would think that leaping to 6nt is a perfectly good bid).

helene_t, on 2016-February-08, 03:15, said:

In Lawrence's book, 3NT shows 15-17, and then W clearly has to move. I think this is standard 2/1 but maybe not so clear in a pick-up partnership.

[manudude03]

While I agree that West is more to blame on this hand (honestly, I'm trying for slam even if it transpired East had a limit raise), I don't think 3NT is a good bid. Slam is excellent opposite Axx xx Axx Axxxx and that's a 12 count that is not moving over 3N.

[sakuragi]

E confession:

1. Have EW done poorly on this board?
Yes

2. Has W tried?
Yes. By bidding 2d (instead of 2nt/3c).

3. Has E tried?
Yes. By bidding 3nt (instead of 2nt). Questionable to eyes of majority. E contrarian nature might have pushed him along that bid.

4. Could EW blame lack of partnership?
No. You got to make your call at the table. Given all the info (and uncertainty), 6c/6nt is far superior to 3nt.

5. E version of ATB?
W 40, E 60

Tks for all the replies.

[nige1]

Agree with Gwnn, that it's easier, if you have detailed agreements. On a good day, however, even without special agreements, you might bid a slam, on pure power:

1♣ - 2♣ -
3♠ - 3N -
4♦ - 4♥ -
And so on.

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[gszes]

sakuragi, on 2016-February-06, 15:18, said:

bd 12

final score is 54:46 in favor for jec. this board costs 10. i must do something for you ...


it is bd 12

must be something I am missing note how everyone seems to be assuming your 2c is inverted when you have not specified it as such. Unfortunately partner was laboring under the illusion that 2c was non forcing (see board 1). Now does a 2d bid look any better? How about passing 3n when the weak 2c bidder stops both majors? See how a tiny detail like inverted off in competition can have a huge effect on the outcome of the bidding ?)))))))))))))) Note how your interpretation of my 2d bid does not read as 16+ but mainly min with dia stop for NT purposes--it does not even promise extra values. so both sides were essentially operating under the invalid premise there was communication happening:)