[deep]

5 Major Diamond 4°
tournament machpoint

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2SA = 5- 5 minor
What better bid for South
I think 5 ♦ but i dont know, because 5♦ is cue bid 1° round and i have cuebid 2°round.
what i do?
ty at all for help me.

[kenrexford]

6H

[wank]

you have a slam drive so you want to ascertain if 7 is making or not. the way to do that is to draw attention to the hearts by bidding 5♥. this will get partner to value the king. you might still not get to 7 though when it's right.

[WesleyC]

I agree with the other posters that this hand is certainly worth forcing to slam force, and that you should at least suggest bidding 7♠ along the way.

Without complex agreements I'd prefer to advance with 6C as an unambiguous grand slam try.

[all loomis]

just bid 6 s's. bidding 7 in a competitive action with singles everywhere does not pay.

[lycier]

After 4♣,south should know they have a good 6♠ or 7♠ contract.Save room as possible as,cuebid 5♥,then let partner go on cuebid.

[rhm]

kenrexford, on 2015-October-29, 13:46, said:

6H

Hard to construct a hand where hearts will play better than spades here. Even if partner is 4-4 in the majors, I would worry about hearts not breaking well for us.

Rainer Herrmann

[jogs]

4♣?? What does 4♣ mean?

[Zelandakh]

jogs, on 2015-October-31, 11:26, said:

4♣?? What does 4♣ mean?

Pretty sure everyone is assuming it is a splinter absent any comment to the contrary. Do you play it differently?

[kenrexford]

rhm, on 2015-October-31, 07:25, said:

Hard to construct a hand where hearts will play better than spades here. Even if partner is 4-4 in the majors, I would worry about hearts not breaking well for us.

Rainer Herrmann

Really? How about something not all that tricky, like 5H/3S, where a 4-1 split in spades can be handled by ruffing one spade?

[cherdano]

wank, on 2015-October-29, 13:48, said:

you have a slam drive so you want to ascertain if 7 is making or not. the way to do that is to draw attention to the hearts by bidding 5♥. this will get partner to value the king. you might still not get to 7 though when it's right.

Don't mean to be picking on you - when I see a post from you I disagree with, I am just surprised, so feel the need to respond.

I like natural slam tries more than most, but even for me 5♥ would just be a cuebid here. Plus I don't think partner needs to be told to upgrade ♥K over minor suit kings in this auction. And isn't 5♥ the bid we'd all make with ♥AKx ♦xx and a slam try?

I like the 6♣ cuebid - tells partner to devalue a club void, we will find out about ♦A, and if partner has both major suit kings plus ♦A I think he'll go on over 6♣-6♦-6♥.

[cherdano]

kenrexford, on 2015-November-02, 18:27, said:

Really? How about something not all that tricky, like 5H/3S, where a 4-1 split in spades can be handled by ruffing one spade?

For the rest of us, 4♣ promises short clubs and 4+ spades.

[wank]

cherdano, on 2015-November-02, 18:34, said:

Don't mean to be picking on you - when I see a post from you I disagree with, I am just surprised, so feel the need to respond.

I like natural slam tries more than most, but even for me 5♥ would just be a cuebid here. Plus I don't think partner needs to be told to upgrade ♥K over minor suit kings in this auction. And isn't 5♥ the bid we'd all make with ♥AKx ♦xx and a slam try?

I like the 6♣ cuebid - tells partner to devalue a club void, we will find out about ♦A, and if partner has both major suit kings plus ♦A I think he'll go on over 6♣-6♦-6♥.

i was mainly wanting to show we don't have the diamond ace, lest partner with something like kq/kj diamonds overvalues them. it's a favourable 2nt overcall so there's plenty of capacity for us to have diamond length and need secondary honours from partner. i do like that 6c will stop partner overbidding a club void, but i was thinking it will frequently go 5h-5s-6c to get both aspects across.

oh and you're welcome to pick on me. i frequently talk out of my arse. i've got no problem being pulled up on it.

[kenrexford]

cherdano, on 2015-November-02, 18:35, said:

For the rest of us, 4♣ promises short clubs and 4+ spades.

4C promises 4+ spades for me, except in competition like this. If you wait around for 4-card spade fits only, you end up with a heck of a lot of ambiguous cue support calls, IMO. With Kxx KJxxx Axxx x, I am supposed to make some ambiguous 3D unusual vs unusual cue? Please.

[Fluffy]

If you want to try for grand bid 6♣ if partner bids 6♦ we have 7♠ on. I don't see how partner could splinter without Kings on both majors, but even if he misses one of them they are likely onside.