[Fluffy]

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West is pro, East is client.

Partner is a solid citizen. He would normally pass with a single heart stopper.

[mgoetze]

Pass, WTP?

[PhantomSac]

Is your 2N opener natural or artificial?

Also did X deny 5 spades? A 6 card minor? Or is it literally just any hand with no shortness

[Fluffy]

it denied long suits. 5M and 6m will be rare and only with bad quality.

2NT opening is minors.

[whereagles]

stay fixed. pass

if you really cant stand pass, try a quantitative 4NT (it is quant, right?)

[Jinksy]

What would partner's pass mean over 3♥?

[WesleyC]

The problem feels impossible without more info regarding partners options.
What does 3NT show? What about pass/double?

[Fluffy]

Jinksy, on 2014-December-22, 21:42, said:

What would partner's pass mean over 3♥?

Forcing pass = take out

[Jinksy]

I will pass. Having the ♥ suit multiply stopped seems good for game and bad for slam, since it suggests fewer points where we'll need them as sources of tricks. If I bid 4N, I'd expect P to go to slam with a decent 18 count or better, which I'd expect to leave us struggling for tricks, and possibly off two cashers.

[wank]

pass. if slam's making, it was more likely partner's job to show more enthusiasm over 3hx. in 33 hcp 6nt terms (6c will often be easier on less, e.g 18, a kq a kq, but we aren't introducing jxxxx) partner needs to hold 5 points above minimum. we only hold 4 points above our minimum.

[gszes]

p probably has somewhere btn 17-22 for the 3n bid. That's a pretty
large range but the minimum opposite our 12 should make 4n pretty
darn safe. That's important because we most likely want to be in
slam if p has around 21 or 22 especially if we have a club fit.

I do not know the particulars of your system but I would make one
slam try. In my case that is 4c (natural) but 4n is also perfectly
reasonable.

[mgoetze]

gszes, on 2014-December-24, 10:53, said:

4n is also perfectly
reasonable.

About as reasonable as playing 6NT on a random 31HCP combined, or inserting random linebreaks into your posts.

[neilkaz]

Jinksy, on 2014-December-23, 12:01, said:

I will pass. Having the ♥ suit multiply stopped seems good for game and bad for slam, since it suggests fewer points where we'll need them as sources of tricks. If I bid 4N, I'd expect P to go to slam with a decent 18 count or better, which I'd expect to leave us struggling for tricks, and possibly off two cashers.

We agree and note that over 3♥ opener had a FP available. Fluffy says pass=take out, but wouldn't opener pass with a monster with some slam interest (ie something like a natural 2NT opening)?

[Fluffy]

My thoughts were that partner will not volunteer a bid with ♥Kx normally. so my thougths were that he either had 3 good hearts, or perhaps solid minor.

If he has a solid minor slam might be cold

♠10x
♥Kx
♦AKQxxx
♣AQx

or perhaps

♠Axx
♥Kx
♦AKQxxxx
♣x

it could as well be down from the start if he had ♣KQ as 2 aces woud be missing.

However most of the time the slam would depend on opponents not finding the club lead, given that the sponsor was on lead I though it was a fair shot, so I bid 4NT. Was rewarded with 1370, when partner bid 6♦ on

♠Axx
♥Kx
♦AKQxxx
♣Qx

[mgoetze]

Fluffy, on 2014-December-24, 12:29, said:

However most of the time the slam would depend on opponents not finding the club lead, given that the sponsor was on lead I though it was a fair shot, so I bid 4NT. Was rewarded with 1370, when partner bid 6♦ on

♠Axx
♥Kx
♦AKQxxx
♣Qx

3NT seems like a matchpoint bid.

[whereagles]

shame on you, gonzalo... abusing someone else's source of income :-D

[jillybean]

And you got the ♥ lead, this sounds like clubbing baby seals.
Nice auction anyway, I enjoy hearing your rationale