Bid, no bid, or would have bid before?
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Balance or not to balance
#2
Posted 2014-October-27, 21:53
I am not sure if these are *good* bids, but it is what I would do.
Thought i was north per the original diagram
#3
Posted 2014-October-27, 23:14
Bidding 1S over 1S is a tough call
The artist formerly known as jlall
#5
Posted 2014-October-28, 00:32
The hand shown is designated as the North hand, but from the auction it would seem to be the South hand in reopening position. That's what I'll assume is the case.
At your first opportunity to intervene in the auction, both opponents have bid and neither has limited their hand as yet. You have some points, but they are not in your 6 card suit which is headed by the 10. If you intervene now, especially vulnerable, you want to have reasonably solid values, else you risk yielding some spectacular phone numbers to the opponents. So it just doesn't seem right to jump in at this point.
In the reopening position, your second chance to enter the auction, the opponents have a fit, yet they don't have enough to try for game. Give them maybe 22 or 23, so your side does have some values. Those are positives for reopening. But again vulnerability, your poor suit, and especially the location of your hand and the values in your hand aren't good. The bulk of your HC values are in the opponent's suits. Even worse, the opening hand (West) sits behind you and has bid both of those suits. So those points need to be devalued some.
If you intervene, it will have to be at the 3 level. Down 2 or off 1 doubled vulnerable (- 200) is a terrible result versus a part score. So you need some reasonable prospect of making to come in with a bid. You're looking at least an 8 loser hand. So partner needs to have something like a 7 loser hand (which is normally about an opener) to make. That just doesn't seem very likely.
So, logically, the prudent action is to pass!!
At your first opportunity to intervene in the auction, both opponents have bid and neither has limited their hand as yet. You have some points, but they are not in your 6 card suit which is headed by the 10. If you intervene now, especially vulnerable, you want to have reasonably solid values, else you risk yielding some spectacular phone numbers to the opponents. So it just doesn't seem right to jump in at this point.
In the reopening position, your second chance to enter the auction, the opponents have a fit, yet they don't have enough to try for game. Give them maybe 22 or 23, so your side does have some values. Those are positives for reopening. But again vulnerability, your poor suit, and especially the location of your hand and the values in your hand aren't good. The bulk of your HC values are in the opponent's suits. Even worse, the opening hand (West) sits behind you and has bid both of those suits. So those points need to be devalued some.
If you intervene, it will have to be at the 3 level. Down 2 or off 1 doubled vulnerable (- 200) is a terrible result versus a part score. So you need some reasonable prospect of making to come in with a bid. You're looking at least an 8 loser hand. So partner needs to have something like a 7 loser hand (which is normally about an opener) to make. That just doesn't seem very likely.
So, logically, the prudent action is to pass!!
#6
Posted 2014-October-28, 02:06
rmnka447, on 2014-October-28, 00:32, said:
The hand shown is designated as the North hand, but from the auction it would seem to be the South hand in reopening position. That's what I'll assume is the case.
Great assumption since it is our turn to bid.
The artist formerly known as jlall
#8
Posted 2014-October-28, 05:08
PhantomSac, on 2014-October-27, 23:14, said:
Bidding 1S over 1S is a tough call
Zia suggested (when partnering Gozilla) to make an insufficient bid to prevent partner from (in this case) balancing with 3♣.
Anyway, I pass.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
#9
Posted 2014-October-28, 06:22
I bid 3♥. Risky, sure, but defending 2M at matchpoints often leads to a crummy score anyway.
Life is long and beautiful, if bad things happen, good things will follow.
-gwnn
-gwnn
#11
Posted 2014-October-29, 10:14
3♥. Opponents don't play 2-of-a-fit at MPs.
My concern, however, is that partner passed. That means (in my philosophy) that she didn't have a call, or she thought I would know what to do better. So spades are probably 4333 around the table, and if so, she may have the same hand I have with the round suits switched. That will be...poor.
Ah well, "rather be -1100 than -110" -- LC.
Oh, if I'm playing with a BBO random, then auto-pass. If it's wrong, I'm still going 1100; if it's right, I'm going -200 into -110, or -100 (or -200, doubled) into -100 or more; in 4♥, of course.
My concern, however, is that partner passed. That means (in my philosophy) that she didn't have a call, or she thought I would know what to do better. So spades are probably 4333 around the table, and if so, she may have the same hand I have with the round suits switched. That will be...poor.
Ah well, "rather be -1100 than -110" -- LC.
Oh, if I'm playing with a BBO random, then auto-pass. If it's wrong, I'm still going 1100; if it's right, I'm going -200 into -110, or -100 (or -200, doubled) into -100 or more; in 4♥, of course.
When I go to sea, don't fear for me, Fear For The Storm -- Birdie and the Swansong (tSCoSI)
#12
Posted 2014-October-29, 10:27
3H, knowing it is risky, more so if opps frequently raise on 3-card support.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
#13
Posted 2014-October-30, 03:31
Thx all. Pard had
♠ Ax
♥ QJxx
♦ xxx
♣ QJxx
LHO doubled like lightning but it was to not to be. With the ♦Q onside, 3♥ rolled in without much trouble.
♠ Ax
♥ QJxx
♦ xxx
♣ QJxx
LHO doubled like lightning but it was to not to be. With the ♦Q onside, 3♥ rolled in without much trouble.
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