[jddons]

1D X 1H 3H? Is this weak, invitational or forcing with hearts, or asking for a stop? Or perhaps 2 suited? In 40+ years of bridge I never had this auction till last night. My Italian partner would be tapping his forearm (to signify the need for something intravenously!). Any thoughts?

[Cyberyeti]

My inclination is that X=4♥, 2♥=5+♥F1, no particular agreement about 3♥ but the sort of hand I'd like to do it on is one where I have values for game, heart stop but one that will play better from the other side opposite say Qx(x), something like Kxx, Axx, KQJ, xxxx. Exactly what the difference between 2/3♦ and 3♥ is has to be for partnership discussion, but without that, I'm not sure of the subtle nuances.

[PhilKing]

Would assume nat constructive with 6 hearts. I think it is fairly common to play 2♥ as nat with five, but I have never seen it played as forcing (before now).

[FrancesHinden]

I've had this auction. Partner had a decent but non-game-forcing hand with 6 hearts. We bid fairly rapidly to 6H, making exactly.
(trumps broke 2-1)

[Cyberyeti]

PhilKing, on 2014-June-05, 16:11, said:

Would assume nat constructive with 6 hearts. I think it is fairly common to play 2♥ as nat with five, but I have never seen it played as forcing (before now).

We tend to double with 5 hearts and 5 - 7 or 8, not sure what is standard. F1 doesn't guarantee anything great in this case, a decent 8 or 9.

[mike777]

jddons, on 2014-June-05, 15:04, said:

1D X 1H 3H? Is this weak, invitational or forcing with hearts, or asking for a stop? Or perhaps 2 suited? In 40+ years of bridge I never had this auction till last night. My Italian partner would be tapping his forearm (to signify the need for something intravenously!). Any thoughts?

Manic

At times we all are at the table...

[aguahombre]

"When will they ever learn?"...a song from the Vietnam era by Peter, Paul, and Mary.

All the frivolous 1M response does is help us determine the exact degree of our fit in that suit.

[whereagles]

For anti-psyche purposes, I have these defined as equivalent:

1♦ dbl pass 3♥
1♦ dbl 1♥ 3♥

3♥ is nat, 5-card 8-10 H or 6-card 5-7 H. (give/take a point)

[mycroft]

If double is "Hi, I have hearts, too, this should be fun", then I think 3♥ should be "We have 3NT if your hearts are good enough" - I'm guessing ♦AKQxxx and out or something?

If double is "pick a pointed suit", then you need an anti-psychic auction. This looks like a good one.