[dickiegera]

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What does partner have?

Is 2♠ forcing?

[the hog]

about 10 11 with 5/5 minor. Forcing? Yes of course.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

 the hog, on 2014-May-30, 18:53, said:

about 10 11 with 5/5 minor. Forcing? Yes of course.

Ron posted this same meaning in Jan, 2005.... and hasn't changed his tune .

[mike777]

For starters don't pass 2s!

fwiw I play a direct 3c or 3d after 2h as int range, long one suited , natural.

That means with a long weak suit I go through 2s as here.

so 2s forces 3c and I pass or correct. In any event I would only do this after discussion.

that means with ron's hand I would often pass 2h.

Qx..x...Axxxx....Axxxx forces me to pass 2h.

[trevahound]

I vote also for both minors, lots of shape.

How do people play the same auction except 3m by responder at his second call? Long weak minor or GT for p's major? I've heard a very strong local player argue that 3m has sailed when partner rebids 2M, so best used as that GT.

[fromageGB]

The question implies this is undiscussed. If it had been, there is no question : if you were playing Kaplan inversion you would have discussed this. So it is therefore not natural. A NT continuation would be natural, so therefore it is either heart related or minor related. I rule out the heart-related, because undiscussed, partner can simply raise to invite game.

Regardless, I bid hearts with 7 cards, but assume I have just 6.

You have presumably discussed what 1♥ 3m means, and also 1♥ 1NT 2♥ 3m, so if they are both natural, you probably have one of those as weak and one invitational. In this case I can see no meaning for 2♠ as anything other than both minors, opener taking his choice. An unusual 2NT where here 2NT would be usual, and 2♠ is decidedly unusual. Just pick your minor.

If you were playing 1♥ 3m as heart support of some sort, then the other interpretation of 2♠ would be a single suited minor, weak or invitational, whichever a 3m rebid would not be. This is in addition to the "both minors" interpretation. My opener rebid must then try to cater for both interpretations.

(A) If the "unbiddable minor holding" was weak, then I could bid 3♣ for pass or correct, but equally I could bid 2NT and let partner play. When you incorporate the possibility of it being both minors, then with that I would want 3♣ to be preference. So my eventual opener rebid would be 2NT if I have a preference for diamonds in the 2-suited possibility, and 3♣ otherwise.

(B) If the "unbiddable minor holding" was invitational, I would do the same if I chose to decline a game invitation. However, I cannot do that if I would accept a game invitation, so with spades covered I bid 3♠, and otherwise bid 3♦.

Play with me at your peril!

Luckily you will be discussing this afterwards, so will not have to agonise again.