[P_Marlowe]

MikeH wrote
http://www.bridgebas...everse-bidding/

I am not sure, if he just copied his answer out of his original post, or rewrote it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: For what's it worth, I prefer also the light reverse style, the problematic seq.
being

1C - 1S
2H - 2S (*)

(*) forcing or non forcing

[gordontd]

 Lovera, on 2014-June-22, 04:21, said:

for a minimum hand (1c (p) 1 h (p) 1s is sufficient to describe the force (called also occasionally reverse )

This sequence is not a reverse, and it is not standard for it to be forcing (although I know some here do play it as such).

[Lovera]

On a color change to jump (forced to run) the statement at the same level by the opener of a second color of rank greater than the first (statement backhand) shows the distribution of the hand without necessarily show that the opening is 'strong (Jose' Le Dentu in Bridge a 'la une). In the statement indicated in my previous post is in fact indicated a weak hand bicolor. The false lapels occasional situation arises when a declarative obligation to bid at level 2.

[Zelandakh]

Lovera, to help you with English terminology:

1♦ - 1♥ - 1♠ is a simple rebid of a new suit, not forcing but can be made with anything short of a game force
1♦ - 1♥ - 2♠ is a jump shift, forcing to game
1♦ - 1♠ - 2♥ is a reverse and shows extras
1♦ - 2♣ - 2♥ is also a reverse, this time forcing to game

1♥ - 1♠ - 2♣ is also simple rebid of a new suit, not forcing but can be made with anything short of a game force
1♥ - 1♠ - 3♣ is a jump shift, forcing to game
1♥ - 2♦ - 3♣ is often known as a high hat reverse and is forcing to game

[broze]

A good compromise for me is to play that 1x-1NT-2y reverses can be shaded light and that other reverses are up to strength.

[steve2005]

 Zelandakh, on 2014-June-23, 08:24, said:

1♦ - 2♣ - 2♥ is also a reverse, this time forcing to game

This is no more a reverse than the following is playing inverted minors 1♦-2♦-2♥

now if your playing 1♦-2♣ as GF you can afford to define it as a reverse but I think it merely shows extras over a standard American 2♣ and I'm sure some people play it as merely bidding out their distribution.

[Zelandakh]

It is a reverse by definition - a non-jump rebid of a higher-ranking suit at the 2 level. If it shows extras over a SA (or Acol/SEF/Forum D) 2♣ response then it is also GF. And if 2♣ was GF then obviously the auction is also GF regardless of whether this reverse rebid shows extras or not. So I am not sure what you think is wrong with my commentary, which was designed to be open enough to cope with all normal scenarios.

[Lovera]

THE REVER.The rever consists of a series of two declarations which requires the respondent to rise to the level of three if it is prefered the color stated initially. Since the final commitment of the couple may be a contract of 9 tricks the statement after a response at the level of one, requires 19-20 points [Stayman]: 47) s 7 h A K 10 2 d AJ 10 5 4 c AQ 2 The declaration: 1d (p) 1s (p) 2 h. Note that the first color is longer than the second. "This will occur whenever the statement in rever covers two contiguous colors" (..Stayman systeme .. pagg . 74 and 75 [by Google Translate from italian edition ]).

[helene_t]

With all respect, Lovera, that text is impossible to read for someone who doesn't know what the text says on beforehand. I think it would be better if you posted your Italian texts in the Italian forum instead.