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Fixed by GIB But which one?

#1 User is offline   Antrax 

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Posted 2013-October-29, 04:46


Random bot play so IMPs, unfavourable.

GIB doesn't adjust for vulnerability when preempting so you know it has the A and a major card or more.

I was planning to post this hand in GIB robot discussion to complain about the bidding system, where X is takeout, 4 and 5 show two-suited hands with 4 and 3- losers respectively, 3NT is capped at 22 HCP and 4NT is undefined, but then I realized my own system has no real answer here, either.

So, what do you do with this hand? I realize you normally don't tailor your system to these extreme situations, I just wonder which general agreements might work here.
As a bonus question, what if you also held the A? Do you just blast 6NT and hope for a dummy entry or a diamond lead?
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Posted 2013-October-29, 05:35

3NT, hoping they don't run spades.

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Posted 2013-October-29, 06:12

3NT is completely obvious to me, no matter how many gadgets and knick-knacks I've got. I would not use a natural 4N even if I had it available.
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Posted 2013-October-29, 21:47

Oh wow, I'm way too optimistic.

So what happens here?

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Posted 2013-October-29, 23:22

I would double with the first hand. If partner can only bid three of a major, 3NT is enough. Otherwise I will bid slam. Not perfect, but I expect to reach more good slams than bad ones compared to just bidding 3NT.
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Posted 2013-October-29, 23:25

What's the plan after X-(p)-4? It's GIB so you won't be able to play NT below 6.
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Posted 2013-October-30, 09:08

First hand.

X followed by 3NT.

You are so strong, that partner wont jump to 4M.

If he still jumps, you know, ..., I guess I bid 6NT.

Would be a lot harder, if you swap diamonds with spades, and you face a 3S preempt.

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Posted 2013-November-02, 00:18

Hand 1: 3NT. Less than 22 HCP in my book because of the short secondary honors in and .

Hand 2: TOUGH. It depends on how lucky i'm feeling. Partner needs specific cards for a slam to be on in most cases. I would guess it no better than 50/50 to make slam on average. I'd probably double then go 4 if partner bids them or 3NT if not. And I'd grit my teeth if he showed up with something like xxxx K9xxx xxxx.
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