MPs scoring unfavourable, 2D showed a normalish raise to 2S (7-9), do you act here, and if so how?
good hand bad hearts
#1
Posted 2013-October-25, 04:32
MPs scoring unfavourable, 2D showed a normalish raise to 2S (7-9), do you act here, and if so how?
#2
Posted 2013-October-25, 06:10
They are green vs. red, they opened in 3rd seat, and have methods
to stop on the 2 level, on (sub)-min openings.
I guess I would go with double, hopefully 2NT by partner is kind
of scrambling, so that we can find our best minor suit fit.
Did I love the initial X? No, but it is hard to argue, either call X,
1NT or 2H have their problems, you choose to make a T/O.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2013-October-25, 10:21
mr1303, on 2013-October-25, 06:58, said:
2♥ vs double the first time is a complete tossup but if you didn't bid 2♥ (for pretty good reasons) you certainly can't bid 3.
I'll double and if we aren't playing lebensohl in this situation we will be on the next hand.
The lack of a 2♥ bid or double from partner are bad signs but maybe I can defend 3♠ instead of two and I may well be sounding tough on the way to a dive.
What is baby oil made of?
#6
Posted 2013-October-29, 06:55
ggwhiz, on 2013-October-25, 10:21, said:
Depends. If double by partner would have shown diamonds then the lack of double is a good sign
#7
Posted 2013-October-30, 04:19
#8
Posted 2013-October-30, 05:54
Pard is unlikely to bid diamonds because he didn't dbl 2D. But even if he does, pull back to hearts. No risk of pard raising to game because he's pretty much broke.
#9
Posted 2013-October-30, 06:27
You are playing matchpoints, so -200 is fatal.
One opponent has opened the bidding, the other has shown a fair hand. Between them, they are representing about 1/2 the deck. You have almost the other 1/2 of the deck. So partner is broke. This is consistent with his pass over 2♦.
You have no dominant suit which would be a source of tricks.
You have a flawed takeout double. Your long suit is weak, and you have a short suit that is not yet bid. Partner, if he has length in any suit, could easily have length in your short suit. And if partner bids your short suit, you are in no position to "correct" to another suit.
Even if partner bids one of your long suits, making 8 tricks undoubled is no guarantee. And the opps know that you are vulnerable and that you are playing matchpoints, so a doubled one-trick set is certainly possible.
I would guess that your chance of going -200 or worse at the 3 level is very high. So pass and avoid a disaster.
#10
Posted 2013-October-30, 07:21
It is MP's. Minus eight zillion is just the same zero.
#12
Posted 2013-October-30, 11:26
#14
Posted 2013-October-30, 18:07
#15
Posted 2013-October-30, 18:39
#17
Posted 2013-October-30, 19:41
jdeegan, on 2013-October-30, 19:34, said:
Correct, but partner can bid a scrambling 2NT or a Lebensohl bid.
#18
Posted 2013-October-30, 20:59
Cyberyeti, on 2013-October-30, 08:59, said:
A 2♥ overcall is imho let us just say 'incredible' at forms of scoring other than matchpoints. I am trying to get my mind around its merits at MP's. You may well have a good point in today's environment. What would you bid at other forms of scoring?
#19
Posted 2013-October-31, 02:10
jdeegan, on 2013-October-30, 20:59, said:
We play our simple overcalls very sound, partner will not pass this very often if we should be higher barring a freak with a LOT of clubs.
#20
Posted 2013-October-31, 05:04
Cyberyeti, on 2013-October-31, 02:10, said:
Fair enough. Minus 800 or 1100 is no worries. Minus 200 or 300 after all pass is only a routine concern. After all, your opponents are from a generation raised on matchpoint scoring and negative doubles. Now we are into IMP scoring which is more like the old days. Anyone willing to consider an overcall of 1NT with this hand the first time? Personally, I would never do it.