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The 2♦ bid was explained as a strong jump overcall.
Do you double?
[Sorry - bidding changed at about 16:36 on October 22.]
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Posted 2013-October-22, 09:03
Matchpoints. 2nd qualifying session.
The 2♦ bid was explained as a strong jump overcall.
Do you double?
[Sorry - bidding changed at about 16:36 on October 22.]
The 2♦ bid was explained as a strong jump overcall.
Do you double?
[Sorry - bidding changed at about 16:36 on October 22.]
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Posted 2013-October-22, 09:19
Since the problem changed, this comment is no longer relevant.
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Posted 2013-October-22, 14:32
Remarkable pass by N with 4441 12 hcp. This is the only interesting thing that i see when i look at this thread.
I would DBL 4 ♠ of course but i can predict this can be the losing case in interesting hands forum.
I would DBL 4 ♠ of course but i can predict this can be the losing case in interesting hands forum.
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Posted 2013-October-22, 14:34
I can not see 4♠ making unless declarer has a void in diamonds... even then...
even if they are going to run I probably X
even if they are going to run I probably X
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Posted 2013-October-22, 14:36
MrAce, on 2013-October-22, 14:32, said:
Remarkable pass by N with 4441 12 hcp. This is the only interesting thing that i see when i look at this thread.
I would DBL 4 ♠ of course but i can predict this can be the losing case in interesting hands forum.
I would DBL 4 ♠ of course but i can predict this can be the losing case in interesting hands forum.
Sorry. I was having trouble reconstructing the auction and I missed the fact that I opened the bidding.
I now recall that the bidding was somewhat "unusual." I fixed it in the OP.
I hope this doesn't change the problem too much.
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Posted 2013-October-22, 14:36
Looks like a 5♦ bid coming back after the double so I'm passing. IF we beat 5♦ this is going down 2 or more.
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Posted 2013-October-22, 14:42
You have substantially changed the bidding, not 100% sure I'd double here, but I'd want to take a look.
Now that I've taken a look, I am letting 4♠ go - its not the field auction, I think I'm ahead as long as they play 4♠, I don't need to double to beat the field in a matchpoint event, I think, and I'm not sure I'm beating 5♦. I am no longer sure what I am going to lead, either. I would want to ask N what 3H would have meant from S, and see if I can discern why the auction went the way it did - which suit is N afraid of for having pulled 3N to 4S.
Now that I've taken a look, I am letting 4♠ go - its not the field auction, I think I'm ahead as long as they play 4♠, I don't need to double to beat the field in a matchpoint event, I think, and I'm not sure I'm beating 5♦. I am no longer sure what I am going to lead, either. I would want to ask N what 3H would have meant from S, and see if I can discern why the auction went the way it did - which suit is N afraid of for having pulled 3N to 4S.
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Posted 2013-October-22, 17:47
ArtK78, on 2013-October-22, 14:36, said:
Sorry. I was having trouble reconstructing the auction and I missed the fact that I opened the bidding.
I now recall that the bidding was somewhat "unusual." I fixed it in the OP.
I hope this doesn't change the problem too much.
I now recall that the bidding was somewhat "unusual." I fixed it in the OP.
I hope this doesn't change the problem too much.
Actually it did change the problem for me. Previously they had a spade fit and no indication of long diamonds. Here i am not sure if we have enough tricks to defeat 5♦. I may still DBL if i need some MPs due to the state of session, otherwise I will stop being greedy and sit on 4♠
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
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"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
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Posted 2013-October-23, 00:01
I'm passing. My concern isn't so much 5 ♦ as the opponents retreating to a makeable 4 NT.
(Above comment made in response to original bidding sequence but applies even more so to revised sequence.)
(Above comment made in response to original bidding sequence but applies even more so to revised sequence.)
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Posted 2013-October-23, 08:12
I too pass. Someome told me not to double the only contract I can beat.
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Posted 2013-October-23, 09:50
Here is the full hand:
I doubled, and they sat, so I got +200. The double turned my 9.5 into an 10 on an 11 top.
The opps had a very peculiar auction to a very poor spot. I should have passed out 4♠ since they can run successfully to 4NT. But that didn't happen, so all ended well.
I doubled, and they sat, so I got +200. The double turned my 9.5 into an 10 on an 11 top.
The opps had a very peculiar auction to a very poor spot. I should have passed out 4♠ since they can run successfully to 4NT. But that didn't happen, so all ended well.
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Posted 2013-November-04, 19:45
ArtK78, on 2013-October-23, 09:50, said:
Here is the full hand:
I doubled, and they sat, so I got +200. The double turned my 9.5 into an 10 on an 11 top.
The opps had a very peculiar auction to a very poor spot. I should have passed out 4♠ since they can run successfully to 4NT. But that didn't happen, so all ended well.
I doubled, and they sat, so I got +200. The double turned my 9.5 into an 10 on an 11 top.
The opps had a very peculiar auction to a very poor spot. I should have passed out 4♠ since they can run successfully to 4NT. But that didn't happen, so all ended well.
The double was fine. The fact that they can make 4NT and not 4♠ is a fluke in my view. But given that it was matchpoints, it stood little to gain and a fair amount to lose. (Edited because original comment incorrectly assumed partner was on lead.)
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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